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    Re: John McCain Blames Tea Party For Government Shutdown

    Which reminds me of a phrase I like to use a lot: Present Moment Awareness..Which appears to be taking hold in DC..As for DP, all the back-and-forth revision over however many decades one chooses has subsided..I'll remention 'Lincoln Democrat'..
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    Re: John McCain Blames Tea Party For Government Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    There is an unbridgeable divide between Conservative Republicans, who believe in small government and the Tea Party loons, who believe in no government. One side or the other will prevail. For the sake of the country, I hope its the former. It would be nice to have an opposition party not bat-**** crazy. But I think ultimately the loons will succeed in eliminating the Conservatives and they will destroy the party in the process.
    This appears to be what has happened over the last 6 or 7 years. It appears to be accelerating. The irony (one of many) is that the GOP gerrymandering has put a contingent of tea party nihilists in safe districts for the foreseeable future. So the GOP may be stuck with this Golem for a long time, and by then there may be no national GOP left.

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    Re: John McCain Blames Tea Party For Government Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    This appears to be what has happened over the last 6 or 7 years. It appears to be accelerating. The irony (one of many) is that the GOP gerrymandering has put a contingent of tea party nihilists in safe districts for the foreseeable future. So the GOP may be stuck with this Golem for a long time, and by then there may be no national GOP left.
    the tea party doesn't seem to exactly believe in no govt, but no govt where ever they arbitrarily deem it, while excessive govt in other areas. And all without any sense of an underlying philosophy

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    Re: John McCain Blames Tea Party For Government Shutdown

    McCain is a progressive just like Obama - no difference...

    Progressive republicans and progressive democrats are both authoritarian - they just have different visions and ideas...

    The Tea Party and Libertarians are the only ones who give a ****...

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    Re: John McCain Blames Tea Party For Government Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    This appears to be what has happened over the last 6 or 7 years. It appears to be accelerating. The irony (one of many) is that the GOP gerrymandering has put a contingent of tea party nihilists in safe districts for the foreseeable future. So the GOP may be stuck with this Golem for a long time, and by then there may be no national GOP left.
    Really? GOP gerrymandering???

    Do you even know who draws district lines?

    You do realize that progressives do nothing but gerrymander here in Illinois right?? Democrats just made my district 5% rich, 25% middle class and 70% ghetto or, better yet "democrats."

    If conservatives were so successful at gerrymandering as you claim they would be winning every damn election...

    Do you even know what the **** gerrymandering is??

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    Re: John McCain Blames Tea Party For Government Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Really? GOP gerrymandering???

    Do you even know who draws district lines?

    You do realize that progressives do nothing but gerrymander here in Illinois right?? Democrats just made my district 5% rich, 25% middle class and 70% ghetto or, better yet "democrats."

    If conservatives were so successful at gerrymandering as you claim they would be winning every damn election...

    Do you even know what the **** gerrymandering is??
    Since Republicans are going demographically extinct, there are so few left that even gerrymandering isn't an option in most states anymore They've already reached their gerrymander quota.

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    Re: John McCain Blames Tea Party For Government Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Since Republicans are going demographically extinct, there are so few left that even gerrymandering isn't an option in most states anymore They've already reached their gerrymander quota.

    Do you know what the hell gerrymandering is? what it consists of? given the bold statement it appears you don't.

    You act like "republicans" are somehow joining the progressive party when they're not...

    The libertarian party is growing largely thanks to people like you and Obama.... Hell democrats are even joining us libertarians and starting to come to their senses....

    The largest problem with both sides is the partisans and democrats have 10x more partisans than "republicans."

    Not that it matters considering us on the non-progressive side would never vote for a progressive... What progressives have is the less educated youth vote and voter fraud and that is what put's them over the hump the majority of the time.

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    Re: John McCain Blames Tea Party For Government Shutdown

    Maybe if we didn't let the news spread their liberal propaganda to the younger generations like the Fascists and Communists did in the 30s and 40s. . .

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Since Republicans are going demographically extinct, there are so few left that even gerrymandering isn't an option in most states anymore They've already reached their gerrymander quota.
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    Re: John McCain Blames Tea Party For Government Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Lukas105 View Post
    Maybe if we didn't let the news spread their liberal propaganda to the younger generations like the Fascists and Communists did in the 30s and 40s. . .
    You mean like conservatives are fond of doing via chain emails, blogs, Breitbart, yadda yadda?
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    Re: John McCain Blames Tea Party For Government Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    You do realize that progressives do nothing but gerrymander here in Illinois right??
    You bet we do Nick..This is the best one I've seen in 5 decades..
    Democrats just made my district 5% rich, 25% middle class and 70% ghetto or, better yet "democrats.
    There are exactly 30 of these m/M CDs in the USA..
    If conservatives were so successful at gerrymandering as you claim they would be winning every damn election...
    Though you call them 'conservatives', the Repubs won CDs 234--171, net 63 in 405 CDs by only a plurality of +3.2 million votes..The 30 m/M Dem CDs won by a plurality of 3.7M, giving Dems that overall lead of 0.5 M. Just the raw data..
    Do you even know what the **** gerrymandering is??
    Texas would be the best example of current textbooks..
    Repubs currently have about a 2-1 on GM-d seats after the 2010 elections.
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