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    Re: John McCain Blames Tea Party For Government Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by reidster View Post
    Why can't we push a button and transform all tea party members to Libertarians?

    But seriously, the tea party was a decent idea that was then hijacked by neoconservatives and religious zealots. Their social views are laughable at best when it comes to reality. It seems that most of them are more intent on challenging the government than promoting freedom.

    It seems like the movement is the last ditch effort of neoconservatives and traditionalists to make a stand and save their ideals. Hate to break it to them, but the future of the Right in American politics is economic and social/personal freedom.
    Tea Partiers =/= libertarian.

    Tea Partiers, by and large, socially conservative... libertarians , by and large, are not.

    sure would be nice of we had more fiscally conservative/socially liberal folks around... but there just isn't

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    Re: John McCain Blames Tea Party For Government Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Can you tell me what you mean by the word, "pragmatist"? I suspect you mean something different than the dictionary definition.
    The general sense that it is used within discussions of politics, it is someone interested in workable solutions as opposed to ideological purity

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    Re: John McCain Blames Tea Party For Government Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    Yeah, another troll who knows everything, and a new poster can't know anything. Just like FR.

    Oh well, it appears that he isn't taken seriously by many people here, some people just troll to start a fight for no good reason. I've been around internet forums since the start, I recognize a troll quickly, and know that when you starve a troll of the attention they desperately seek, they die.
    You can come on back and apologize for just how wrong you have it when you find out the nature of HOJ. Says a lot about you though that you hung around FR, none of it good.

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    Re: John McCain Blames Tea Party For Government Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    Tea Partiers =/= libertarian.

    Tea Partiers, by and large, socially conservative... libertarians , by and large, are not.

    sure would be nice of we had more fiscally conservative/socially liberal folks around... but there just isn't
    Yeah, it's hard for me to find many redeeming qualities in that hardcore social conservatism of the republican party, and that seems the main complaint with most people from my generation and younger.

    Off topic, but now that he has been out of office for awhile, how socially conservative do you think Bush Jr. Was? It seems most of that agenda was designed to secure the political support of the religious right, as opposed to being part of his core political values.

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    Re: John McCain Blames Tea Party For Government Shutdown

    According to the thread title, McCain is blaming the TEAt party..
    If Dems do it, we're partisan..
    When Repubs do it, they're RINO's..
    But wait, these Repubs are truly making me LOL with their quips..
    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    Tea Partiers =/= libertarian.

    Tea Partiers, by and large, socially conservative... libertarians , by and large, are not.

    sure would be nice of we had more fiscally conservative/socially liberal folks around... but there just isn't
    Physics is Phun

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    Re: John McCain Blames Tea Party For Government Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    You can come on back and apologize for just how wrong you have it when you find out the nature of HOJ. Says a lot about you though that you hung around FR, none of it good.
    what is FR?

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    Re: John McCain Blames Tea Party For Government Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    According to the thread title, McCain is blaming the TEAt party..
    If Dems do it, we're partisan..
    When Repubs do it, they're RINO's..
    But wait, these Repubs are truly making me LOL with their quips..
    While the label of libertarian gets thrown around way too often, you would be hard pressed describing anyone with a moderate socially conservative streak as such. And most of the TP bunch seems rather strongly entrenched in that camp

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    Re: John McCain Blames Tea Party For Government Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    According to the thread title, McCain is blaming the TEAt party..
    If Dems do it, we're partisan..
    When Repubs do it, they're RINO's..
    But wait, these Repubs are truly making me LOL with their quips..


    I'm a Libertarian.. not a republican... not a tea partier.

    please, learn the difference.

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    Re: John McCain Blames Tea Party For Government Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    what is FR?
    An awful place, a political message board that gets nuttier and nuttier with each passing day.

    Great for laughs, and to see what tunnel vision will do to people who only get their news from one source.
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    Re: John McCain Blames Tea Party For Government Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    While the label of libertarian gets thrown around way too often, you would be hard pressed describing anyone with a moderate socially conservative streak as such. And most of the TP bunch seems rather strongly entrenched in that camp
    I have a lot of libertarian views, but I abhor the Libertarian Party. It is a sad joke, 43 years and they have not ever elected anyone to any high office, just the unopposed flood control boards and the like. They will never get anywhere because everyone in it is so fixated on their individualism that it makes any kind of agreements or compromise impossible.
    "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it." George Santayana

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