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    Re: Liberals war on women takes big advance

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Timely access to reproductive health services is critical to women's health," Atkins said in a statement. "AB 154 will ensure that no woman has to travel excessively long distances or wait for long periods in order to obtain an early abortion."
    reminds me of the type of logic that fueled the Gosnell case. Where any form of oversight was deemed as a means to discourage abortions, while ignoring legitimate questions of patient safety.

    Would you support handing out any other powerful medication under such conditions? Also, is this fear of lack of access real, or like the gun nuts, is it born from excessive paranoia?

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    Re: Liberals war on women takes big advance

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaddelamancha View Post
    How is it a war on Women when all this does is give woman a safe and legal choice concering their body. If only every war was this bad.
    I'm not sure removing doctors from the equation raises safety standards

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    Re: Liberals war on women takes big advance

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Most abortions today are done with a pill. The idea that you need to be a doctor to hand someone a pill is comical. Do you even hear your own words?
    You reasoning could apply to almost any medication, but the reason we create the barrier of a doctor to such things, is because those magic little beans can carry serious health implications.

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    Re: Liberals war on women takes big advance

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Well this thread backfired badly. Hard to believe conservatives would distort "news"...
    not surprising liberals would ignore very real questions of patient safety to push an ideological agenda ...

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    Re: Liberals war on women takes big advance

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Jerry Brown is a monster. How dare he refer to himself as a Jesuit.
    I've never hear that he is a Jesuit, but if you'd like I know some Franciscans who have quite a bit of uncomplimentary things to say on the topic of Jesuits.


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    Re: Liberals war on women takes big advance

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    "Gov. Jerry Brown of California signed AB 154 on Wednesday, legalizing non-physician abortions in the state.

    The legislation, which had been pushed vigorously by Planned Parenthood, had been strongly opposed by pro-life groups and some physicians, arguing that it amounted to legalizing back-alley abortions for profit.

    In a statement, Gov. Brown boasted that AB 154 was one of seven bills signed Tuesday "to support the health and well-being of women in California."
    California's Brown Signs Bill Permitting Non-Physician Abortions

    Lets see. The liberals policies thrown many women out of work and prevent many of them from finding work and require many others of them to take an hours cut. But that's not enough for the liberals. For years they have yelled about preventing back alley abortions and they needed to be conducted legally by doctors. Well, here's progress the liberal way. Take a bad idea, make it worse and then call it a success.
    I thought that as a conservative, Breitbart would love the free market being allowed to work. Greater competition means that consumers will be even more protected, because patients will have more options when it comes to their abortions. Bad practitioners will be pressured to improve or go out of business. Even then if he didn't agree with this, the same safety standards apply. And don't tell me that his line isn't just him editorializing. He didn't actually cite anyone, and it was the only opinion in the article. It's his opinion, which he never bothers to back up with evidence.

    If you oppose abortions, talk about restricting abortions. Advocating for these extra "safety regulations" and then claiming that you are only looking out for women's safety is a complete load of horse****. If you oppose abortion, fine, talk about that, but the vast majority of laws currently being passed and advocated by pro-lifers goes far and away from keeping women safe and only seeks to restrict abortions.
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    Re: Liberals war on women takes big advance

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Which explains why the law requires trained medical professionals...
    in what other instances do 'trained medical professionals" besides doctors, get to prescribe and administer drugs? Are physician assistants even authorized to do such, besides in the most routine applications?

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    Re: Liberals war on women takes big advance

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I've never hear that he is a Jesuit, but if you'd like I know some Franciscans who have quite a bit of uncomplimentary things to say on the topic of Jesuits.
    Yeah, unfortunately the Jesuits have a nasty reputation.

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    Re: Liberals war on women takes big advance

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    reminds me of the type of logic that fueled the Gosnell case. Where any form of oversight was deemed as a means to discourage abortions, while ignoring legitimate questions of patient safety.

    Would you support handing out any other powerful medication under such conditions? Also, is this fear of lack of access real, or like the gun nuts, is it born from excessive paranoia?
    Sure...my aunt is a nurse anesthesiologist. That's some pretty powerful medication.

    Most states allow Nurse Practitioners to write prescriptions for some very powerful stuff.

    In fact in a lot of rural areas Nurse Practitioners are primary care physicians for whole communities.
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    Re: Liberals war on women takes big advance

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    uhm this is already the case for the morning after pill as it falls in line with other pills of its classification to be that way. THis has been true for quite some times, actually this year the age availability was just lowered.

    SO patient safety isnt being overlooked at all, the FDA controls that and a state bill cant sidestep that.

    IM guessing you are confusing somethign else since non of that is factually true.
    nothing you wrote addresses my point. You don't show that issues of patient safety are adequately dealt with when a licensed physician is removed from the discussion.

    try again

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