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    Re: Liberals war on women takes big advance

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    like my example already proved the FDA has effects in that area too
    having an impact in the area isn't the same as having a direct authority into it, like you originally suggested

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    Re: Liberals war on women takes big advance

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    No, you obviously offered numerous times as a rebuttal.
    nope not once, it was a response to failed strawmen
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    Re: Liberals war on women takes big advance

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    No, you really can't. All such studies would do is indicate the extre-level of training wasn't neccasary. The doctor would still be better trained and more proficent as a general rule, due to their more extensive education, vocational training, and oversight. That is why the law stresses that PA, RN, etc would be poerforming under the authority of a doctor

    <<< In order to perform an abortion by aspiration techniques pursuant to Section 2253, a person with a license or certificate to practice as a nurse practitioner or a certified nurse-midwife shall adhere to standardized procedures developed in compliance with subdivision (c) of Section 2725 that specify all of the following:
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    you keep stating that and it changes nothing, the medical community and studies factually disagree with you and your meaningless, topically uneducated opinion.
    Ill stick with their facts
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    Re: Liberals war on women takes big advance

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    I would have the same problem with a state that allowed mechanics to deliver them, yup. .
    thats what i thought, i knew you wouldn't commit because you know it exposes your biased lol you only care about this because it gives access to abortion and no other reason. thanks for proving it.

    so you are ok with these same people delivering babies eventhough its a procedure with MORE risk?
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    Re: Liberals war on women takes big advance

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    The comparison is not a nurse providing and abortion to a woman giving birth. The comparison is a nurse providing abortion to a doctor providing abortion.
    actually that is the compassion and you continuing to run from it exposes you


    these people are already allowed to provide medical care for giving birth, a procedure with MORE risk. You are ok with that
    now those same people are allowed to provide medical care for abortions, a procedure with LESS risk. This hurts your feelings and you are being dishonesty acting like you are worried about saftey/money making.

    you are thoroughly exposesed
    you lose to facts again
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    Re: Liberals war on women takes big advance

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    all these self congratulatory posts do is paint you as someone with confidence issues who can't let his remarks stand on their own merit. It's like a fat kid constantly flexing in the mirror talking about how he's a big-boned beef cake
    YES!!!!!!

    there it is, maybe a future melt down coming on! thats it lash out since you cant defend your original argument

    deflection and failed insults noted
    facts still stand
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    Re: Liberals war on women takes big advance

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    having an impact in the area isn't the same as having a direct authority into it, like you originally suggested
    nope NEVER suggested that, thats more BS you made up and assumed in your head like you always do and fail. Thanks for pointing that out
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    Re: Liberals war on women takes big advance

    reflection of facts


    what this bill does is it stops older law from adding EXTRA and SPECIAL restrictions based on NOTHING medical or science backed.

    now the state is using the exact or close to same standards/regulations the the medical/science orgs use/recommend

    this will now allow more access to regulated health care for people that need it with out illogical state regulation in the way.

    Nothing new was created medical or science wise, no medical/science standards have been side stepped just simply allowing the medical community to do its job under the same medical standards it has been.

    the few denying this lost to the facts/links presented in the thread
    thier argument is biased and based on abortion not the failed cover of saftey

    the fact is now some of the people that are allowed to provide medical care for giving birth, a procedure with MORE risk can also provide medical care for people getting an abortion, a medical procedure with LESS risk.
    so any concerns based on saftey, which are not supported by the medical/science community must also be applied to all these same people giving medical care for giving birth. If not you clearly expose yourself.

    anyway THIS bill makes me and many people who like medical care and access to it very happy. It will help many people who need it, it obviously hurts a few peoples feelings and that is amusing to me.
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    Re: Liberals war on women takes big advance

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    thats what i thought, i knew you wouldn't commit because you know it exposes your biased lol you only care about this because it gives access to abortion and no other reason. thanks for proving it.

    so you are ok with these same people delivering babies eventhough its a procedure with MORE risk?
    I don't like abortion....even if performed by two doctors, but that's not what we're talking about. I like it even less when it's performed under less safe circumstances. This law leads to the Gosnell clinic, yet, they claim it's for improved women's health.
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    Re: Liberals war on women takes big advance

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    actually that is the compassion and you continuing to run from it exposes you


    these people are already allowed to provide medical care for giving birth, a procedure with MORE risk. You are ok with that
    now those same people are allowed to provide medical care for abortions, a procedure with LESS risk. This hurts your feelings and you are being dishonesty acting like you are worried about saftey/money making.

    you are thoroughly exposesed
    you lose to facts again
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