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    Re: California's brown signs bill permitting non-physician abortions

    Good job Cali!
    feelings, deceptive biased opinions and forcing morals on others lose to science/medical standards of offering regulated and safe medical care to people who need it!
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    Re: California's brown signs bill permitting non-physician abortions

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    you just cited a summery of the bill from planned parenthood. I cited the actual text of the bill. Do you need that distinction explained to you, as well?

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    Re: Liberals war on women takes big advance

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    1.)not one is disputing the drugs use in chemical abortions though (the federal level of oversight). What is being disputed is how it's being administered (the state level of oversight). As I said, it';s a distinction that is seemingly lost on you. But it is an important one

    2.)who administers these drugs and how is clearly a state function, which operates with the approval system of the FDA.

    There are two distinct tiers there that compliment each other
    1.) sorry FDA has some control here too. not lost i just know the facts.
    2.) nope, what if the FDA deems it can be over the counter or the FDA deems it has to be a prescription and supervised? then the stat can not violate that in a less direction.
    The state could make an over the counter, prescription but not the other way around.
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    Re: Liberals war on women takes big advance

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    they govern an abortion pill and abortion meds exactly what im talking about so yes your opinion is meaningless
    facts destroy your failed post again
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    Post 199 is factually false
    But we are discussing how the medication is administered and by whom

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    Re: California's brown signs bill permitting non-physician abortions

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    you just cited a summery of the bill from planned parenthood. I cited the actual text of the bill. Do you need that distinction explained to you, as well?
    yes you did and i cited it before you, you know when you were declaring it wasnt posted even though me and 2 others did and i was the first to post the whole thing LOL DO you need reminded of that? It couled even be assumed the only reason you have it is because of me.
    the bill doesnt change anything at all of what we are talking about it, the bill doesnt define the scope of PAs etc, you were questioning scope, its in theirs, thanks for playing you lose again to facts. This is fun!
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    Re: Liberals war on women takes big advance

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) sorry FDA has some control here too. not lost i just know the facts.
    I, nor mac, never claimed the FDA doesn't approve drugs


    2.) nope, what if the FDA deems it can be over the counter or the FDA deems it has to be a prescription and supervised? then the stat can not violate that in a less direction.
    You mean the scheduling system? Yes, that's regulating the drug, itself. How that drug is administered is a state aspect of oversight

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    Re: Liberals war on women takes big advance

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    But we are discussing how the medication is administered and by whom
    EXACTLY!

    yes which the FDA most certainly can effect in many cases but FACTUALLY this one, thanks for seeing that facts

    lets do a factual example.

    if the FDA decides tomorrow it was wrong and that the day after pill must be prescription and the age of 18 then what factually happens to this new bill? or even better yet its a
    It will have to change again of parts of it will be moot because now without a doctors involvement the FDAs standards arent being met and change must happen.
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    Re: Liberals war on women takes big advance

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    1.)I, nor mac, never claimed the FDA doesn't approve drugs

    2.)You mean the scheduling system? Yes, that's regulating the drug, itself. How that drug is administered is a state aspect of oversight
    1.) weird i never made that claim either, thanks again captain obvious
    2.) again see the example the FDA has some impact here
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    Re: Liberals war on women takes big advance

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    EXACTLY!

    yes which the FDA most certainly can effect in many cases but FACTUALLY this one, thanks for seeing that facts

    lets do a factual example.

    if the FDA decides tomorrow it was wrong and that the day after pill must be prescription and the age of 18 then what factually happens to this new bill? or even better yet its a
    It will have to change again of parts of it will be moot because now without a doctors involvement the FDAs standards arent being met and change must happen.
    If abortion were illegal in California after 21 days, it would be illegal for anyone to administer an FDA approved abortifacient after 21 days.

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    Re: Liberals war on women takes big advance

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    If abortion were illegal in California after 21 days, it would be illegal for anyone to administer an FDA approved abortifacient after 21 days.

    Get it?
    yes this is true, i already said the state can go in one direction against the FDA and not the other, i said it about 5 times with examples shall i qoute on of them? I said they can add to the restricitions but cant go less then them.

    get it?

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