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    Re: Liberals war on women takes big advance

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    yes this is true
    Sio despite your numerous assertions to the contrary you were wrong

    but like government they do stupid things to double down anyway, this is common and means nothing to the facts or discussion.
    Then show us this was already within the scope of their training, by citing an academic or vocational training program, for general nursing, etc, like I originally asked. Because, otherwise, you are only asserting something, without supporting evidence.

    Just like the gay marriage example already given, its waste of time stuff for paranoid mentally retarded conspiracy nuts.
    or, like above, you could just be wrong, despite your vehement assertions to the contrary.

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    Re: Liberals war on women takes big advance

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    You really are very confused as to the FDA's role, here. Very.
    you are welcome to that opinion but its meanignless
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    Re: Liberals war on women takes big advance

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    We are not discussing the approval and regulation oif drugs in general. We are discussing the use of drugs *within* medical care. There is an important distinction there that you will likely be incapable of grasping
    actually we are and i have been, it was APPROVED to use a certain way, the state put EXTRA on top of that
    nothing to graps since its a failed deflection that doesnt change anything i said, thanks
    good move totally bailing out and trying a reframe though
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    Re: Liberals war on women takes big advance

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    Yes, the FDA regulates drugs, not medical care. We are talking about medical care that involves drugs. Different animals
    yes and they regulat how that drug can be given CARE wise
    no different at all

    if the FDA deems it a certain class where it needs an dim just amkign somethign up here for an example used under supervision then the state cant go past that but they could add to it
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    Re: Liberals war on women takes big advance

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    You really are very confused as to the FDA's role, here. Very.
    post 199 is still factually wrong, nothing has changed
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    Re: California's brown signs bill permitting non-physician abortions

    Assembly Bill 154 will address the current shortage of health care professionals able to provide early abortion care in California.It will authorize trained Nurse Practitioners (NPs), Certified Nurse Midwives (CNMs) and Physician Assistants (PAs) to provide comprehensive first trimester abortion care, which is within the scope of their licenses.
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    Re: Liberals war on women takes big advance

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    you are welcome to that opinion but its meanignless
    No, I'm afraid it's not meaningless. The FDA does not govern abortion.
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    Re: Liberals war on women takes big advance

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    No, I'm afraid it's not meaningless. The FDA does not govern abortion.
    they govern an abortion pill and abortion meds exactly what im talking about so yes your opinion is meaningless
    facts destroy your failed post again
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    Post 199 is factually false
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    Re: Liberals war on women takes big advance

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    they govern an abortion pill and abortion meds exactly what im talking about so yes your opinion is meaningless
    That is not the same thing as governing abortion procedure.

    facts destroy your failed post again
    fact recall:
    Post 199 is factually false
    No, your misunderstanding of facts destroys yours.
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    Re: Liberals war on women takes big advance

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    actually we are and i have been, it was APPROVED to use a certain way
    not one is disputing the drugs use in chemical abortions though (the federal level of oversight). What is being disputed is how it's being administered (the state level of oversight). As I said, it';s a distinction that is seemingly lost on you. But it is an important one


    the state put EXTRA on top of that
    who administers these drugs and how is clearly a state function, which operates with the approval system of the FDA.

    There are two distinct tiers there that compliment each other

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