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    Re: Liberals war on women takes big advance

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Most abortions today are done with a pill. The idea that you need to be a doctor to hand someone a pill is comical. Do you even hear your own words?
    You fail. An aspiration abortion is not a pill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    The truth from a planned parenthood site as to some of the risks to women who undergo an aspiration abortion: allergic reaction, infection, ectopic pregnancy, blood clots, damage to cervix, organ injury and death. Yep, planned parenthood created that "hysteria". To bad they don't focus the women on it who think they want to murder their babies.
    Which explains why the law requires trained medical professionals...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Well this thread backfired badly. Hard to believe conservatives would distort "news"...
    Not at all. The murder by abortion supporters just like to "distort news".
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    Re: Liberals war on women takes big advance

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    Bill Text: CA AB154 | 2013-2014 | Regular Session | Enrolled | LegiScan

    Once more, the attempt at creating hysteria doesn't come close to matching the truth.
    Does it ever?
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    Re: Liberals war on women takes big advance

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    Not at all. The murder by abortion supporters just like to "distort news".
    Funny, in this case it was you and your source...
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    Re: Liberals war on women takes big advance

    Wow theres not a lot of OPs that fail and get destroyed so quickly on their very first page.
    THAT was funny.

    Anyway as long as this follows FDA and other medical org guidelines as other drugs/procedures its always good to allow people greater access, again as long as it follows the same regulations as other meds/procedures of its kind.

    I see ZERO wrong here and women are GAINING, not losing. Wow what a failed thread.
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    Re: Liberals war on women takes big advance

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Breitbart...
    So what? The story is true.

    I cannot imagine why on earth California would enact such legislation. My bet? Done at the behest of clinics who want to hire cheaper help than a licensed physician. This isn't protecting women; this is putting them in the hands of people who are not equipped to recognize a complication when they see it happening . . . and not knowing what to do when something untoward does happen.

    I am simply amazed that the AMA didn't fight this right to the wall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Which explains why the law requires trained medical professionals...
    Right, right. That's why one of the excuses used by those pushing for this was women were having a little trouble finding doctors to do this. So the did the logical thing that provides for a woman's best care, that took a step down in the level of service, skill and expertise. When a woman is laying there on the table when complications arise she'll know she has "trained medical professional" wondering what to do next instead of a doctor. That has to be reassuring to her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Funny, in this case it was you and your source...
    Funny. It's you and the other murder supporters. Bad enough you want to kill off babies, now you don't much care what happens to the woman.
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    Re: Liberals war on women takes big advance

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    So what? The story is true.

    I cannot imagine why on earth California would enact such legislation. My bet? Done at the behest of clinics who want to hire cheaper help than a licensed physician. This isn't protecting women; this is putting them in the hands of people who are not equipped to recognize a complication when they see it happening . . . and not knowing what to do when something untoward does happen.

    I am simply amazed that the AMA didn't fight this right to the wall.
    thats because like i suggested this probably doesnt do anything at all that the FDA and other medical orgs dont already allow.
    SO theres nothign to fight, that seemed obvious to me because the state couldnt pass this if it went against the FDA and other medical orgs, it doesnt work that way

    this is what i found from PP

    Assembly Bill 154 will address the current shortage of health care professionals able to provide early abortion care in California. It will authorize trained Nurse Practitioners (NPs), Certified Nurse Midwives (CNMs) and Physician Assistants (PAs) to provide comprehensive first trimester abortion care, which is within the scope of their licenses.

    AB 154:

    Expands access to early abortion services in California
    Reflects the best scientific research
    Minimizes targeted statutory regulation of abortion

    Sponsor Organizations:
    ACLU
    ACCESS Women’s Health Justice
    Black Women for Wellness
    California Latinas for Reproductive Justice
    NARAL Pro-Choice California
    Planned Parenthood Affiliates of California

    Supporting Organizations:
    ACT for Women and Girls of Tulare County
    Bay Area Communities for Health Education
    California Church IMPACT
    California Family Health Council
    Cardea Institute
    Center on Reproductive Rights and Justice
    Choice USA
    Forward Together
    Fresno Barrios Unidos
    National Health Law Program
    Nevada County Citizens For Choice
    Physicians for Reproductive Choice & Health
    Women's Community Clinic
    Women's Health Specialists of California

    so the OP is a complete failure, joke and farse

    its just like i said:
    "as long as this follows FDA and other medical org guidelines as other drugs/procedures its always good to allow people greater access, again as long as it follows the same regulations as other meds/procedures of its kind.

    I see ZERO wrong here and women are GAINING, not losing"


    but again id be right with you mags IF this bill did something to side step FDA and medical regulations or drugs/procedures of this kind. Then that would be BAD and not good at all.
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