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    Re: Liberals war on women takes big advance

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Right over there, of course.
    I could be wrong, but I don't recall it being mentioned before YOU brought it up. So quote the relevant post

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    Re: Liberals war on women takes big advance

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    actually it's not inherently religious. I know atheists and Peta style secularists who hold the same view. But I would wager that it's most popular among the religious
    It is definitely more popular among the fundamentalists at least, which puzzles me.
    If you believe that there is a god, that humans are spiritual beings, then an aborted fetus represents a body that didn't get made. The spirit can be born into another body, perhaps to a different parent.
    If, on the other hand, you believe in ashes to ashes, dust to dust, there is nothing beyond this physical life, then an aborted fetus represents an intelligence that will never have a chance to exist.

    So, logically, it should be the atheists who believe that life starts at conception and that aborting a fetus at any stage is tantamount to killing a baby.

    Oh well. Logic and human thought seems at times to be incompatible.
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    Re: Liberals war on women takes big advance

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    and the welfare state encourages abortions, or encourages births? Think about it.
    Dude, why don't you two take it to one of the many threads where the topic is already being hashed out? People are discussing a different topic here

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    Re: Liberals war on women takes big advance

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    I could be wrong, but I don't recall it being mentioned before YOU brought it up. So quote the relevant post
    Trust me. I'm not going back and re reading all of the posts in this thread. It's not worth the trouble, and you'll never admit you were wrong anyway.
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    Re: Liberals war on women takes big advance

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    It is definitely more popular among the fundamentalists at least, which puzzles me.
    If you believe that there is a god, that humans are spiritual beings, then an aborted fetus represents a body that didn't get made.
    No, that is your subjective opinion. Trying to establish such as fact, would be simply doing the exact thing you are decrying

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    Re: Liberals war on women takes big advance

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    Dude, why don't you two take it to one of the many threads where the topic is already being hashed out? People are discussing a different topic here
    We're not discussing abortions? Are you going to once again ask me to point out the relevant post? Try going back to the posts I quoted.
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    Re: Liberals war on women takes big advance

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    No, that is your subjective opinion. Trying to establish such as fact, would be simply doing the exact thing you are decrying
    Mmm... ok... so maybe it's just my subjective opinion that fundamentalist religion and the belief that life starts at conception are correlated.
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    Re: Liberals war on women takes big advance

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Trust me. I'm not going back and re reading all of the posts in this thread. It's not worth the trouble, and you'll never admit you were wrong anyway.
    funny that you can't actually quote anyone, though

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    Re: Liberals war on women takes big advance

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Mmm... ok... so maybe it's just my subjective opinion that fundamentalist religion and the belief that life starts at conception are correlated.
    does the concept of context allude you? I was clearly speaking to your argument on "incompleteness"

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    Re: Liberals war on women takes big advance

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    We're not discussing abortions? Are you going to once again ask me to point out the relevant post? Try going back to the posts I quoted.
    No, the OP clearly discusses an aspect of abortion. You, and a few others, are moving away from that specific aspect and attempting to debate the general issue of abortion. It something I already explained

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