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    Re: Priests Risk Arrest for Offering Sacraments to Catholic Troops During Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    So in other words this does not get money from congress for it's operations and therefor stays open by funding from elsewhere. Now maybe you can explain why things not included in the budget are going to shut down because there is no budget? It is not like the republicans stopped payment for these operations so there is no reason for them to shut down. It would also seem that this is pure manipulative BS on you part.
    This is absolute buffoonery

    The Government is taking in more tax money than ever. The rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer. The corporate fat cats get their Obamacare exemptions while the poor and middle class get *&^%$ up the keester. Oh that's right, equality means we all take it up the *&^% in Obama's utopia except the rich

    Well, you are complaining about irrelevant points. If this is not so bad feel free to quit your bitchin. Catholic services have been shut down by republicans in an attempt to get Obamacare revoked. If you want them restarted then feel free to tell republicans to fund those government programs. If it is fine for you for the reps to hold those services hosyage so we do not get Obamacare then you have nothing at all to complain about.
    Catholic services got shut down because Obama is an Authoritarian Fascist moron who wants to trample on religious freedom

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    Re: Priests Risk Arrest for Offering Sacraments to Catholic Troops During Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    I generally agree with you here, but certain elements of the shut down have seemingly been managed for political effect and theater. But that's the nature of politics and hardly surprising
    It is not surprising considering we have a democrat president. If we had a republican president there would be more leeway for programs they liked and dislike. The republicans expect their stuff to happen and the dems to take the hit for their hissy fit and i see no reason for that to be the case. the republicans want to play this game and part of that is sucking it up for the sacrifices they deem necessary for the end to obamacare. Any time they do not want it we can have a vote in the house on the CR and be done with it. If you want to call that playing politics that is fine. i call it dealing with the consequences of the choices you make. It is the same thing as dealing with getting arrested for illegal protests. It is the same thing as being arrested for not paying your taxes out of protest. It is the same thing as paying the fine rather than getting health insurance. It is just the system. If you cannot get the vbotes to change things then they should not change for you unless the laws are unconsitutional which in the case of Obamacare they are not.

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    Re: Priests Risk Arrest for Offering Sacraments to Catholic Troops During Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    The way Obama is attacking like a rabid dog the American people is what people are complaining about...Obama is purposefully attacking the people of these United States with absurd and quite frankly counter productive measures, taken for no other reason than he's a spoiled brat who don't like to be told no, like everyone on the Left.
    He is not attacking me or any of the other american people. The republicans have attacked our services and are preventing them from happening. This is the result of their refusal to vote in the house on a budget they should be voting on. This has nothing at all to do with Obama and you are lying.

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    Re: Priests Risk Arrest for Offering Sacraments to Catholic Troops During Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    This is absolute buffoonery

    The Government is taking in more tax money than ever. The rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer. The corporate fat cats get their Obamacare exemptions while the poor and middle class get *&^%$ up the keester. Oh that's right, equality means we all take it up the *&^% in Obama's utopia except the rich



    Catholic services got shut down because Obama is an Authoritarian Fascist moron who wants to trample on religious freedom
    No these things got shut down because the republicans refuse to have a vote on the CR which would fuind these things. If there was a vote allowed by boehner then there would be funding and these things would continue. Obama has not vetoed a single thing as of yet and therefor we cannot blame him for a single thing. If you would like to see if he would veto something you have to put it on his desk and they have not put it on his desk. You are manipulating the truth and being dishonest about the situation.

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    Re: Priests Risk Arrest for Offering Sacraments to Catholic Troops During Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    It is not surprising considering we have a democrat president. If we had a republican president there would be more leeway for programs they liked and dislike.
    That was my point: both are working with what they have for leverage.


    If you want to call that playing politics that is fine.
    It wasn't a swipe at anyone. it's pointing out that politicians are going to be political. And it's the kind of stuff parliamentarian systems are built on.

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    Re: Priests Risk Arrest for Offering Sacraments to Catholic Troops During Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    That was my point: both are working with what they have for leverage.




    It wasn't a swipe at anyone. it's pointing out that politicians are going to be political. And it's the kind of stuff parliamentarian systems are built on.
    There are too many people whining about playing politics when it is simply the other side doing what normally happens. In reality it means if you are not in power your perks are going to be less when the people opposing them are in power. It is about democracy in a society that tends to vote on things, and some people need to get used to it.

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    Re: Priests Risk Arrest for Offering Sacraments to Catholic Troops During Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    or he's a politician being political. You know, sort of like the republicans in forcing this shutdown. Not sure why everyone wants to ignore that and act amazed, but get this, water is also wet
    Really? WOW thanks for the revelation.

    The only one "doing" anything is Obama taking the frustrations of his impotence out on the American people.

    He's acting more and more like a tyrant every day. And I use to be one of those people telling people who called him a dictator to STFU. But now, I see what they mean...

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    Re: Priests Risk Arrest for Offering Sacraments to Catholic Troops During Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    He is not attacking me or any of the other american people. The republicans have attacked our services and are preventing them from happening. This is the result of their refusal to vote in the house on a budget they should be voting on. This has nothing at all to do with Obama and you are lying.
    He certainly is. Because you're all warm and cuddly cozy with what he's doing you'll let any travesty slide. I am not lying you are, the House has passed every budget it was suppose to, the Senate didn't like the Budget so they grabbed their little piggies and cried wee wee wee all the way home...

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    Re: Priests Risk Arrest for Offering Sacraments to Catholic Troops During Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    He certainly is. Because you're all warm and cuddly cozy with what he's doing you'll let any travesty slide. I am not lying you are, the House has passed every budget it was suppose to, the Senate didn't like the Budget so they grabbed their little piggies and cried wee wee wee all the way home...
    No, he is not. You may wish he was because you want people to hate him blindly like you do, but this is not the faux news discussiomn groups and your misrepresentation of the truth does not make it so. Again, just because a republican or two thinks the budget should be some way does not mean that it will be. It has to pass with votes, and if you do not have the votes then you do not get your way. This is how the US government works. Boehner wants his own special laws and he is not in charge. He is not even president with veto power. Just because he thinks something should pass does not mean everyone else does and he gets his way. Sorry, but even though you feel it should happen that way does not make it so. Now boehner chose to hold everything up until he gets his way and the dems have told him they will not allow him to run the government no matter what. Sorry, but he just is not our dictator no matter how much you wish he was, or tell us that he is.

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    Re: Priests Risk Arrest for Offering Sacraments to Catholic Troops During Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    No, he is not. You may wish he was because you want people to hate him blindly like you do, but this is not the faux news discussiomn groups and your misrepresentation of the truth does not make it so. Again, just because a republican or two thinks the budget should be some way does not mean that it will be. It has to pass with votes, and if you do not have the votes then you do not get your way. This is how the US government works. Boehner wants his own special laws and he is not in charge. He is not even president with veto power. Just because he thinks something should pass does not mean everyone else does and he gets his way. Sorry, but even though you feel it should happen that way does not make it so. Now boehner chose to hold everything up until he gets his way and the dems have told him they will not allow him to run the government no matter what. Sorry, but he just is not our dictator no matter how much you wish he was, or tell us that he is.
    Yes he is. I don't hate him blindly, I look and see what he's done and I hate it. I don't watch Fox News, I don't even have a cable provider. Again, because the Dems don't like what was given they are not only trying to take their ball and go home they're popping everyone else's ball along the way. This isn't the way government should be, you don't turn on the citizens like Obama and Reid, and every other filthy Dem of their kind are doing. Boehner is a putz who is in over his head and has surprised me by his backbone in all this, it seems Sen. Cruz found him a pair to use. Obama I didn't say was a dictator I said he was a tyrant. Which he is.

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