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    Re: Priests Risk Arrest for Offering Sacraments to Catholic Troops During Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Some may, many were all for keeping faith/religion a private matter, and out of government.

    But not only are they all dead, but most of them would disagree in blacks being equal citizens to whites, women being allowed to vote or especially considered equal to men, tobacco should be viewed as something to be regulated, and that alcohol should be for those over 21. Many of them would also very likely disapprove of the our foreign affairs, including many of the wars we have had since any of them lived.
    They all would have

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    Re: Priests Risk Arrest for Offering Sacraments to Catholic Troops During Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    I think how he feels is "painfully" obvious.
    I think you are basing this on personal bias, rather than what is actually going on. I'm not saying he's that great when it comes the military, but he isn't exactly as nasty as you and others make him out to be. In fact, he really has way less power in such things than most tend to believe he does.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Priests Risk Arrest for Offering Sacraments to Catholic Troops During Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    They all would have
    Since they are not here, you can never prove this statement. It is only your opinion. And we have statements from many of them that contradict that they would want God/religion involved in the politics of this country.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Priests Risk Arrest for Offering Sacraments to Catholic Troops During Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    You're trying way too hard. Your butthurt is showing
    You never did answer my question: How is the St. Andrews AFB Golf Course funded?
    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

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    Re: Priests Risk Arrest for Offering Sacraments to Catholic Troops During Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    You never did answer my question: How is the St. Andrews AFB Golf Course funded?
    survey says: 34%-obot Hautey want to dirk my diggler
    15%-Obaminites want to place his likeness on the moon
    12%-where is the birth certificate
    10%-I like turtles

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    Re: Priests Risk Arrest for Offering Sacraments to Catholic Troops During Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Since they are not here, you can never prove this statement. It is only your opinion. And we have statements from many of them that contradict that they would want God/religion involved in the politics of this country.
    It's not my problem you don't know your country's History

    There were 55 Founders. They were real people. Learn about them. Read their writings.

    This issue is not even debatable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    You never did answer my question: How is the St. Andrews AFB Golf Course funded?
    Your premise is laughable. You're such a waste of everyone's time

    Tell me genius, how is the WW2 Memorial funded? Didn't stop Obama from putting his goons in front of barricades and wiring it shut

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    Re: Priests Risk Arrest for Offering Sacraments to Catholic Troops During Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    survey says: 34%-obot Hautey want to dirk my diggler
    15%-Obaminites want to place his likeness on the moon
    12%-where is the birth certificate
    10%-I like turtles
    He's so funny to watch when it comes to that question. Have you realized he has never once admitted where the golf course's funding comes from? I wonder why? He just keeps diverting to how much we hate the troops and Jesus and capitalism.
    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

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    Re: Priests Risk Arrest for Offering Sacraments to Catholic Troops During Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    It's not my problem you don't know your country's History

    There were 55 Founders. They were real people. Learn about them. Read their writings.

    This issue is not even debatable.
    Yes they were real people with different opinions and beliefs. Plenty of that writing says what I did, that some of them did not believe that religion should be in government, nor that government should be in anyone's religious beliefs.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Priests Risk Arrest for Offering Sacraments to Catholic Troops During Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    It's not my problem you don't know your country's History

    There were 55 Founders. They were real people. Learn about them. Read their writings.

    This issue is not even debatable.
    Here are two that wouldn't:

    Quote Originally Posted by George Washington
    Allowing rights and immunities of citizenship. It is now no more that toleration is spoken of, as if it were by the indulgence of one class of people, that another enjoyed the exercise of their inherent natural rights. For happily the Government of the United States, which gives to bigotry no sanction, to persecution no assistance requires only that they who live under its protection should demean themselves as good citizens, in giving it on all occasions their effectual support.
    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas Jefferson
    Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his god, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their "legislature" should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between church and State. Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties.
    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

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    Re: Priests Risk Arrest for Offering Sacraments to Catholic Troops During Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Yes they were real people with different opinions and beliefs. Plenty of that writing says what I did, that some of them did not believe that religion should be in government, nor that government should be in anyone's religious beliefs.
    False premise

    The Founders never intended for there to be a state religion. You're confusing belief in God and Jesus Christ and living by those principles to a state created and endorsed official religion. Even Jefferson was a strong admirer of Jesus Christ and his teachings. The 10 commandments are in the Supreme Court.

    Read the history from The Puritans to The Founders. This issue is not debatable.

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