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GOP In Grave Danger Of Losing House In 2014, PPP Polls Show [W:78]

So I have to answer an attack from you on every word I say to another poster now?
Are those the DP rules?
Are those the sidebar rules you have enforced on others?
Why do you feel a need to be an expert on the rules?
Do you come here with the goal of B/F/T on others or else for them?
Are all posters subject to your every B/F/T whim?

this doesn't make any sense NIMBY. B/F/T? You can choose to respond or not respond. But if you say whacky stuff people are going to call you on it
 
But if this is the case, I suppose the house can pass a quick CR to authorized spending on the service of the debt, if the house did so, would the senate also pass it and the president sign it if that is all the house passed? Perhaps I best do some more thinking about this.

If you start thinking, you'll be in the wrong mind-frame when looking at DC. They're all fresh out of give.
We need the Constitutional Convention, one of my better threads, used in a new way, excluding ALL pols.
 
Moderator's Warning:
Cease with the personal attacks, off-topic comments and all-around shenanigans.
 
Democrats COULD win back the HOuse, but it would be quite a historic novelty for them to do so. Note also that the poll assumes that the shutdown is the biggest issue. Sure, if the shutdown happened this time next year, that would be incredibly damaging to Republicans. But in Oct. 2014, the biggest issues are more likely to be Obamacare and maybe immigration reform(assuming Democrats don't chicken out and stop advocating for it in election season).

One thing the election won't be about is guns, because Democrats famously clam up big time on guns around election time.
 
If you start thinking, you'll be in the wrong mind-frame when looking at DC. They're all fresh out of give.
We need the Constitutional Convention, one of my better threads, used in a new way, excluding ALL pols.[/QUOTE

Yeah, thinking won't help. But I can't help myself. I have always thought if our elected officials in Washington voted the peoples wishes in the house instead of an party agenda, the senate the wishes of the majority of the people of their state, then all should operate fairly smoothly.

Around twenty or so years ago I read an article about how air travel was changing comradeship of our elected officials in Washington. Before everyone left Washington on Friday to go back to their home district or state only to return on Monday, it seemed they would fight it out during the day and then at night and over the weekend, as they had to stay in Washington then. They would get together over a beer, lunch or supper and meet each other during their off time and become friends with each other. Today, it is fight it out on during the day/week, then go back home. Getting to know your fellow senators and representatives is a no go. Just a thought.
 
Democrats COULD win back the HOuse, but it would be quite a historic novelty for them to do so. Note also that the poll assumes that the shutdown is the biggest issue. Sure, if the shutdown happened this time next year, that would be incredibly damaging to Republicans. But in Oct. 2014, the biggest issues are more likely to be Obamacare and maybe immigration reform(assuming Democrats don't chicken out and stop advocating for it in election season).

One thing the election won't be about is guns, because Democrats famously clam up big time on guns around election time.

We live in novel times, with a contingent of knownothing tea partiers hellbent on destroying the government and the economy. Americans are actually starting to notice.

2014 election nothing - I expect recalls when the tea party forces a default.
 
We live in novel times, with a contingent of knownothing tea partiers hellbent on destroying the government and the economy. Americans are actually starting to notice.

2014 election nothing - I expect recalls when the tea party forces a default.

I think you might be on to something.

People are beginning to notice.

For example, you're poll that heads the OP.

Public Policy Polling.

Client List:

Hire PPP - Clients Public Policy Polling

Organizations and Unions

AAA Mid-Atlantic Region
AARP of North Carolina
AFSCME
Appalachian State University Energy Center
Blueprint NC
Capstrat
Center for Responsible Lending
Childcare Providers Together Michigan
Christina Education Association (DE)
Clean Energy Works
Coastal Conservation Association North Carolina
Common Sense Foundation
Corporate Voices
Daily Kos
Delaware Right to Marry PAC
Delaware State Education Association
Democracy for America
Democratic Governors Association
Democrats.Com
Diamond PAC (ME)
Equality NC
Fair Vote
Faith In America
Faith in Public Life
Greater Cleveland Partnership
Greater Raleigh Chamber of Commerce
Greenville Democratic Party (SC)
Kojo Nnamdi Show (WAMU)
Learning Works (ME)
Lillian's List
Majority PAC
Maryland Democratic Party
Maryland for our Future
Michigan Department of Education
Missourians for a Balanced Energy Future
MoveOn.Org
National Education Association
National Popular Vote, Inc.
Natural Resources Defense Council
NARAL Pro-Choice NC
NARAL Pro-Choice Virginia
Nevada State Education Association
North Carolina AFL-CIO
North Carolina Association of Educators
North Carolina Democratic Party
North Carolina Democratic Senate Caucus
North Carolina Democratic House Caucus
North Carolina League of Conservation Voters
North Carolina Medical Board
North Carolina NAACP
North Carolina Sierra Club
North Carolina State University
Ocean State Action Victory Campaign (RI)
Parent Action for Healthy Kids
Planned Parenthood Federation of America
Planned Parenthood of Wisconsin
Progressive Change Campaign Committee
Project New West
Public Policy Institute, Western Carolina University
Secretary of State Project
SEIU PAC
South Carolina Education Association
South Dakota Democratic Party
State Employees Association of North Carolina
Time Warner Cable
UNC Department of Sociology
UNC Program on Public Life
Vanderbilt University
Victory 2010 (TN)
Virginia Education Association
Washington City Paper​

Why with a non-partisan client list like that, one should really take their polls seriously.

:lamo
 
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Oh, I have no problem with some tax increases or my favorite way of dealing with them, tax everything as income. Whether Capital gains, wages etc, have all taxes on income be the same.

So what radical leftwing legislation were your referring to again? You still haven't identified any. I sort of betting you can't.
 
Everything liberals do is extreme. Want me to name some?

Another fail.

Can any tea partier here identify the radical leftwing legislation that they're paranoid about? Speak now or forever hold your peace.
 
Yes we all know it's always someone else fault, I'm surprised you have not blamed Bush. But the truth is Obama will not negotiate, the leader of the NO party.

He should negotiate, I'm agreeing with you. He and the Democrats should sit down with Boehner and demand a tax hike on the rich, cuts to the military, excise taxes on financial transactions of the rich, banning guns, and strict regulation of the banking industry.

Let the negotiations begin!
 
He should negotiate, I'm agreeing with you. He and the Democrats should sit down with Boehner and demand a tax hike on the rich, cuts to the military, excise taxes on financial transactions of the rich, banning guns, and strict regulation of the banking industry.

Let the negotiations begin!

I'd like your scummy masters to try to push that through

they would win a few more seats than the Libertarians in the next election. the majority party would be the GOP, the minority party would be the TEA party.
 
He should negotiate, I'm agreeing with you. He and the Democrats should sit down with Boehner and demand a tax hike on the rich, cuts to the military, excise taxes on financial transactions of the rich, banning guns, and strict regulation of the banking industry.

Let the negotiations begin!

Yes indeed. And with those demands a default :)lamo) would be assured. And I'm sure you would STILL blame the TP...for the Democrats knowingly demanding things the GOP would surely be against...
 
I'd like your scummy masters to try to push that through

they would win a few more seats than the Libertarians in the next election. the majority party would be the GOP, the minority party would be the TEA party.

So you're really not serious about negotiations. I just wanted to force you to admit it. And I have.

NEXT DISCREDITED RIGHTWING MEME!
 
So what radical leftwing legislation were your referring to again? You still haven't identified any. I sort of betting you can't.

It was a blanket statement. I can refer to rightwing legislation either. I suppose the ACA is close as 58% of Americans were against it when passed and today depending on which poll you refer to the numbers are between 51% and 57% The 57% in a CNN poll and the 51% a CBS poll. I am not debating the merits of the law, just stating what is the will of the majority of the American people. I have a problem with any of our elected officials not listening to the will of their constituents. This is why 2010 happened.

2014 had the makings of another 2010, that is until the House republicans jumped the gun and now are playing stupid politics and falling right into the hands of the Democratic ploy makers. Democrats know how to play the political game, the republicans do not even know how to dress for it.
 
I'm not sure its going to happen....but clearly the teabaggers are damaging the GOP in the eyes of the voters. What is amazing, well maybe not so much, is that Boehner is so afraid of the teabaggers that he is willing to let them take down the entire party. I thought Boehner had more of a backbone than that, but obviously he is so afraid of losing his speakership that he is willing to take down the entire party with him. Very interesting to say the least.
 
It was a blanket statement. I can refer to rightwing legislation either. I suppose the ACA is close as 58% of Americans were against it when passed and today depending on which poll you refer to the numbers are between 51% and 57% The 57% in a CNN poll and the 51% a CBS poll. I am not debating the merits of the law, just stating what is the will of the majority of the American people. I have a problem with any of our elected officials not listening to the will of their constituents. This is why 2010 happened.

2014 had the makings of another 2010, that is until the House republicans jumped the gun and now are playing stupid politics and falling right into the hands of the Democratic ploy makers. Democrats know how to play the political game, the republicans do not even know how to dress for it.

People being "against" legislation doesn't make it leftwing. Usually the reverse it true.

In any case, the ACA is based on Romneycare, a conservative program conceived by conservative thinktanks, espoused by conservatives like Gingrich and put into effect by a conservative governor.

If this is the best you can do for "leftwing" legislation, it's hard to take your claim seriously. I'm going to have to file it in the discredited tea party meme file.
 
You think that a law that encourages private insurance is a radical leftwing idea?

BHAHAHAHHAHAH!

This is so rich!

Yeah, I know...why would those 'radical leftwing'ers' support a policy/law that advances gross corporatism which they have exhibited such a disdain for...

Rich INDEED!

BHAHAHAHAHAH! INDEED...Own it!
 
In your dreams, joachin.

The DNC doesn't have much money to campaign with, but the GOP does.

Besides, who wants a gaggle of drunken-sailor-spending left-wing loons running the country, except other left-wing loons?

Wow, substantive repost.

In any case the polls say what they say. You conservatives haven't had a lot of luck recently claiming libral bias in polls, have you? Remember that whole 2012 election thingie.
 
I think it's a little early to start paying attention the polls. A lot could happen before the elections start.

I agree. And the liberal puppy eyes are opening up now that they see what their new health insurance plan is going to cost them. The overwhelming number of responses I'm hearing are along the line of "I knew costs would go up for some, but not for me". Good morning sunshine, we've been telling you for 3 years, do you believe it now? I expect by spring things are going to change dramatically. Funny thing is many liberals are quick to point out how everybody should be treated the same until they realize that they themselves are above the line and will need to participate. That is when we see their true colors.
 
Wow, substantive repost.

In any case the polls say what they say. You conservatives haven't had a lot of luck recently claiming libral bias in polls, have you? Remember that whole 2012 election thingie.

Hey, the liberal bias is alive and well in the lamestream media.

And you guys don't seem to have any problems playing the self-serving race card, do you?

Wasn't it you liberals who used to say "Question authority"? Well, now it's "If you do question authority then you're a racist."
 
People being "against" legislation doesn't make it leftwing. Usually the reverse it true.

In any case, the ACA is based on Romneycare, a conservative program conceived by conservative thinktanks, espoused by conservatives like Gingrich and put into effect by a conservative governor.

If this is the best you can do for "leftwing" legislation, it's hard to take your claim seriously.

I don't think so, I said having one party in control of the House and the other party in control of the senate prevents extreme right/left wing legislation from occurring. That is true. It might have been better to say having one party in control of the house and the other in control of the senate prevents both parties in pushing their political agenda upon the American People.

To make government work in this case, both parties have to be willing to compromise with some give and take. Today, neither party is willing to take that route. It is my way or the highway with both political parties. The die hard on each side of the aisle can't see this though. They only see one side. I think this is why for the first time in the history of this country those who identify themselves as independents are now more numerous than those who identify with both, I said both political parties. 46% say they are now independents, 43% identify with either the Republican and the Democratic Party.

All these political shenanigans are taking a toll on both major parties.
 
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