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    re: GOP In Grave Danger Of Losing House In 2014, PPP Polls Show [W:78]

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    You and douchebag Diana Huffington wish.

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    You're being very kind and classy Pero.
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    re: GOP In Grave Danger Of Losing House In 2014, PPP Polls Show [W:78]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    We're way past anything rational from them now.
    No matter the repercussions, Boehner can't back down until the debt limit.
    This was Can'tors plan all along going into August.
    Remember, C_NTOR scheduled only 40 days the last 5 months of this year.
    It will play out how ever it plays out. After living through 17 government shutdowns, the 18 doesn't bother me. Boehner has said on numerous occasions that he wouldn't let the government default. I don't think that is up to him. Even if the debt ceiling isn't raised, there is plenty of money coming in monthly to the treasury to avoid a default and service the debt. Whether or not the country defaults is probably more in the secretary of the treasury hand's than Boehner.

    But another thought just popped into my head. I wonder without a CR or authorization to allow the government to spend money to service the debt, even with money or revenue coming in, can the money be spent anyway without authorization from congress? I don't know without doing further research.

    But if this is the case, I suppose the house can pass a quick CR to authorized spending on the service of the debt, if the house did so, would the senate also pass it and the president sign it if that is all the house passed? Perhaps I best do some more thinking about this.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    re: GOP In Grave Danger Of Losing House In 2014, PPP Polls Show [W:78]

    So I have to answer an attack from you on every word I say to another poster now?
    Are those the DP rules?
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    actually the rules allow anyone to address a point made by others. perhaps you want to tell us what you were talking about in terms of a "place"

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    re: GOP In Grave Danger Of Losing House In 2014, PPP Polls Show [W:78]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    You're being very kind and classy Pero.
    Perhaps moma raised a good boy. Just southern manners. now if I say some thing like "well bless his soul,...." At that point you know something very unkind and not a bit classy will be forthcoming.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    re: GOP In Grave Danger Of Losing House In 2014, PPP Polls Show [W:78]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    So I have to answer an attack from you on every word I say to another poster now?
    Are those the DP rules?
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    Why do you feel a need to be an expert on the rules?
    Do you come here with the goal of B/F/T on others or else for them?
    Are all posters subject to your every B/F/T whim?
    this doesn't make any sense NIMBY. B/F/T? You can choose to respond or not respond. But if you say whacky stuff people are going to call you on it



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    re: GOP In Grave Danger Of Losing House In 2014, PPP Polls Show [W:78]

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    But if this is the case, I suppose the house can pass a quick CR to authorized spending on the service of the debt, if the house did so, would the senate also pass it and the president sign it if that is all the house passed? Perhaps I best do some more thinking about this.
    If you start thinking, you'll be in the wrong mind-frame when looking at DC. They're all fresh out of give.
    We need the Constitutional Convention, one of my better threads, used in a new way, excluding ALL pols.

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    re: GOP In Grave Danger Of Losing House In 2014, PPP Polls Show [W:78]

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    Re: GOP In Grave Danger Of Losing House In 2014, PPP Polls Show [W:78]

    Democrats COULD win back the HOuse, but it would be quite a historic novelty for them to do so. Note also that the poll assumes that the shutdown is the biggest issue. Sure, if the shutdown happened this time next year, that would be incredibly damaging to Republicans. But in Oct. 2014, the biggest issues are more likely to be Obamacare and maybe immigration reform(assuming Democrats don't chicken out and stop advocating for it in election season).

    One thing the election won't be about is guns, because Democrats famously clam up big time on guns around election time.

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    Re: GOP In Grave Danger Of Losing House In 2014, PPP Polls Show [W:78]

    [QUOTE=NIMBY;1062393654]If you start thinking, you'll be in the wrong mind-frame when looking at DC. They're all fresh out of give.
    We need the Constitutional Convention, one of my better threads, used in a new way, excluding ALL pols.[/QUOTE

    Yeah, thinking won't help. But I can't help myself. I have always thought if our elected officials in Washington voted the peoples wishes in the house instead of an party agenda, the senate the wishes of the majority of the people of their state, then all should operate fairly smoothly.

    Around twenty or so years ago I read an article about how air travel was changing comradeship of our elected officials in Washington. Before everyone left Washington on Friday to go back to their home district or state only to return on Monday, it seemed they would fight it out during the day and then at night and over the weekend, as they had to stay in Washington then. They would get together over a beer, lunch or supper and meet each other during their off time and become friends with each other. Today, it is fight it out on during the day/week, then go back home. Getting to know your fellow senators and representatives is a no go. Just a thought.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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