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    Re: GOP In Grave Danger Of Losing House In 2014, PPP Polls Show [W:78]

    Quote Originally Posted by BMCM View Post
    Stop playing the poor me victim card. What got us Obamacare was the stellar candidates the GOP put up. You can't win with the Mc Romney cards.
    Excuse me, but I was responding to another poster's allegation, no victim card was played. And furthermore, Obamacare was already in place when the Presidential campaign started, so you fail to establish a cause.
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    Re: GOP In Grave Danger Of Losing House In 2014, PPP Polls Show [W:78]

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Excuse me, but I was responding to another poster's allegation, no victim card was played. And furthermore, Obamacare was already in place when the Presidential campaign started, so you fail to establish a cause.
    Obamacare was not in place when Mc Cain ran for office. He lost then we got Obamacare. Romney ran in 12 and could have stopped Obamacare. Again the GOP failed to stop Obamacare. If the GOP puts up more like these two in 16 they'll most likely fail again. If the GOP was smart they would go ahead and fund Obamacare, let it run. We will know within weather it's gonna work. If not then the GOP has a winning hand. They can say " we funded it, gave it a fair chance and it failed" If it does work then they can take part of the glory. Or they can continue to kick and scream and piss off even more people and we'll end up with another Dem President in 16.
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    Re: GOP In Grave Danger Of Losing House In 2014, PPP Polls Show [W:78]

    Quote Originally Posted by BMCM View Post
    Obamacare was not in place when Mc Cain ran for office. He lost then we got Obamacare. Romney ran in 12 and could have stopped Obamacare. Again the GOP failed to stop Obamacare. If the GOP puts up more like these two in 16 they'll most likely fail again. If the GOP was smart they would go ahead and fund Obamacare, let it run. We will know within weather it's gonna work. If not then the GOP has a winning hand. They can say " we funded it, gave it a fair chance and it failed" If it does work then they can take part of the glory. Or they can continue to kick and scream and piss off even more people and we'll end up with another Dem President in 16.
    The folks that passed it didn't know what was in it; remember was Pelosi said?
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    Re: GOP In Grave Danger Of Losing House In 2014, PPP Polls Show [W:78]

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    The folks that passed it didn't know what was in it; remember was Pelosi said?
    We all know who and how it passed. At this point that don't matter. You guys have failed to stop it as you said you would. As I see it there's two choices. The GOP can get their collective heads out of the sand and do some critical thinking and planning or continue to have a tantrum and fade into the sunset.
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    Re: GOP In Grave Danger Of Losing House In 2014, PPP Polls Show [W:78]

    Quote Originally Posted by BMCM View Post
    We all know who and how it passed. At this point that don't matter. You guys have failed to stop it as you said you would. As I see it there's two choices. The GOP can get their collective heads out of the sand and do some critical thinking and planning or continue to have a tantrum and fade into the sunset.
    It does matter? It's a ****ing nightmare. And the Supreme Court didn't okay it as a good law, they okayed it as a constitutional tax. Roberts never said it was good law, in fact I believe quite the opposite he thought it was a POS but it was quite constitutionally to tax ourselves stupid if we want to.
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    Re: GOP In Grave Danger Of Losing House In 2014, PPP Polls Show [W:78]

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    It does matter? It's a ****ing nightmare. And the Supreme Court didn't okay it as a good law, they okayed it as a constitutional tax. Roberts never said it was good law, in fact I believe quite the opposite he thought it was a POS but it was quite constitutionally to tax ourselves stupid if we want to.
    It really don't matter, it's law. The Supreme Court's job is not to say what is or is not a good law. It's their job to say what is or is not Constitutional, they did their job. It does no good to close the gate after the cows get out. A smart man don't kick the ground and complain about who left the gate opened, a smart man saddles up, rounds up the cows and put them back in the pen then closes the gate. Same thing here, the GOP can continue to whine and complain about Obamacare or they can figure out how to put it back in the pen. So far the whining and complaining has done no good, they just look like little kids that didn't get their way. Maybe they're just not smart enough to figure a way to round up the cows and close the gate. To continue to complain about what has already been established law will get you nowhere. You need to find a way to turn it around and put the blame on the Dems. As it is now the GOP is taking all the heat.
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    Re: GOP In Grave Danger Of Losing House In 2014, PPP Polls Show [W:78]

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Excuse me, but I was responding to another poster's allegation, no victim card was played. And furthermore, Obamacare was already in place when the Presidential campaign started, so you fail to establish a cause.
    Crank historical revisionism -- another tea party trait.

    So we're going to pretend that Obama didn't support the ACA in both elections and wasn't opposed in both elections and didn't win both election by a huge majority.

    Ah, the tendency toward delusion that is modern conservatism.

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    Re: GOP In Grave Danger Of Losing House In 2014, PPP Polls Show [W:78]

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    It does matter? It's a ****ing nightmare. And the Supreme Court didn't okay it as a good law, they okayed it as a constitutional tax. Roberts never said it was good law, in fact I believe quite the opposite he thought it was a POS but it was quite constitutionally to tax ourselves stupid if we want to.
    So since the American people disagree and you can't repeal the ACA in Congress, you want to hold America hostage. Got it.

    Two can play that game. The Democrats shouldn't raise the debt ceiling until taxes are raised on the rich and the military is cut by 75%. See, negotiations are FUN!

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    Re: GOP In Grave Danger Of Losing House In 2014, PPP Polls Show [W:78]

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    So since the American people disagree and you can't repeal the ACA in Congress, you want to hold America hostage. Got it.

    Two can play that game. The Democrats shouldn't raise the debt ceiling until taxes are raised on the rich and the military is cut by 75%. See, negotiations are FUN!

    I am hoping your dem masters try to cut the military by 75%



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    Re: GOP In Grave Danger Of Losing House In 2014, PPP Polls Show [W:78]

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    So since the American people disagree and you can't repeal the ACA in Congress, you want to hold America hostage. Got it.

    Two can play that game. The Democrats shouldn't raise the debt ceiling until taxes are raised on the rich and the military is cut by 75%. See, negotiations are FUN!
    Yeah, let's not raise the debt ceiling.....and see how it works out for you.
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