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Marxist Takeover of America - It's Happening Now

Well, considering we've never had a true marxist government in the history of mankind, who is to say that it's a bad thing?
 
Well, considering we've never had a true marxist government in the history of mankind, who is to say that it's a bad thing?

We've never had a truly laissez faire economy either. That doesn't stop criticisms of the idea, does it? Liberals ought to reconsider using this talking point, because it makes them unwitting pawns of the few remaining pure blood Marxists.
 
Are you starting to realize that this is just the next step?? That the healthcare issue does not detract from the rest of that list, but rather ADDS TO IT.

Oh and 695$ is more like a teaser rate, by the time this system takes effect it will be like 5000$, and it will go up from there, oh ya, and the IRS is going to take this right out of your bank account...

You're trying to suggest to me that Congress is going to pass a law upping the penalty to $5000? And pass a law allowing the IRS to take it out of your bank account?

Let me know when that happens.
 
You're trying to suggest to me that Congress is going to pass a law upping the penalty to $5000? And pass a law allowing the IRS to take it out of your bank account?

Let me know when that happens.

The stuff that many conservatives are just flat making up about the ACA is mind boggling.
 
You're trying to suggest to me that Congress is going to pass a law upping the penalty to $5000? And pass a law allowing the IRS to take it out of your bank account?

Let me know when that happens.

It was already passed...
 
The stuff that many conservatives are just flat making up about the ACA is mind boggling.

Ha... I say the GOP should fully find it and support it as obamas baby, this way WHEN it fails, WHEN it destroys what's left of the economy, then Obama will not be able to claim it was others that caused the failure.

Oh btw, ever heard of a "teaser" rate?
 
Well, considering we've never had a true marxist government in the history of mankind, who is to say that it's a bad thing?

Because Marxism is anarchy.... Marxism is almost an oxymoron.... That's why socialism with authoritarian (sometimes totalitarian cults of personality) communist governments...

Socialism as a viable economic model is impossible to employ without authoritarian government - that is something progressives and "socialists" just don't understand.
 
Because Marxism is anarchy....

No it's not. Do you know what anarchy means?

Marxism is almost an oxymoron....

Okay ...

That's why socialism with authoritarian (sometimes totalitarian cults of personality) communist governments...

That's why what? Finish your sentences plx.

Socialism as a viable economic model is impossible to employ without authoritarian government -

Tell that to Sweden. I ain't advocating full-on socialism here, but Sweden seems to be doing quite well for itself as the most socialist yet still non-authoritarian nation on the planet. Look at their economic numbers, level of freedom, etc. Sweden is doing perfectly fine as a largely socialist nation.

that is something progressives and "socialists" just don't understand.

Progressive and socialist are not synonyms.
 
Ha... I say the GOP should fully find it and support it as obamas baby, this way WHEN it fails, WHEN it destroys what's left of the economy, then Obama will not be able to claim it was others that caused the failure.

Oh btw, ever heard of a "teaser" rate?

Yeah right - that wont work... Obama could kill and eat a baby on live TV then blame republicans and progressives would buy it hook line and sinker...

Besides, the purpose of Obamacare is to dictate the economy (and individuals) via regulation anyways - much like a communist government dictates/plans their socialist economy.... The second Obamacare is fully implemented the government will start attacking all industries via regulations and taxes (on the industry and the individuals that buy their products) that don't kiss the progressive regimes ass'. In short - if you don't play ball with Obama then the product you sell will be demonized and treated like tobacco, and the excuse the progressives in government will use is "its bad for you hence causes unnecessary health care costs" and of course the sheep will buy that notion and support the tyrannical attack..
 
No it's not. Do you know what anarchy means?



Okay ...



That's why what? Finish your sentences plx.



Tell that to Sweden. I ain't advocating full-on socialism here, but Sweden seems to be doing quite well for itself as the most socialist yet still non-authoritarian nation on the planet. Look at their economic numbers, level of freedom, etc. Sweden is doing perfectly fine as a largely socialist nation.



Progressive and socialist are not synonyms.

HA...

Yeah I know what Marxism is and what Anarchy means.... Anarchy is IMPOSSIBLE to achieve, and Marx didn't advocate authoritarian tactics or government to employ socialism, however that is EXACTLY what it takes to employ socialism as a viable economic model....

You know why? because there will always be decent for socialism and in order for the model to work everyone needs to be on board with the idea of "socialism" (or obedient to the economic model) to make it work - that's why true socialism always evolves into communism..

BTW, Sweden isn't truly socialist - not to mention, socialism works for small nations, much like socialism works for small families (the family unit is essentially socialist... However, do you believe a middle class family with 15 kids can afford to be "liberal" with their spending opposed to a middle class family of 4? No they cant because the family with 15 kids need more resources on the same income so allowance and other comforts for the kids go bye bye...

Of course you won't get my analogy....
 
It was already passed...

Nothing in the law allows the IRS to directly take money from your bank account. And the penalty indexes to inflation, so no, they can't just arbitrarily change it to $5000.
 
Nothing in the law allows the IRS to directly take money from your bank account. And the penalty indexes to inflation, so no, they can't just arbitrarily change it to $5000.

They can do whatever the hell they want...

They just can't go into your bank account and steal your money, however they can freeze your bank account and garnish your wages until they're paid...

What's the difference...

You're allowing them to and support them when they do....
 
They can do whatever the hell they want...

They just can't go into your bank account and steal your money, however they can freeze your bank account and garnish your wages until they're paid...

What's the difference...

You're allowing them to and support them when they do....

Actually, the tax penalty imparted by Obamacare can only be assessed on your tax return, and no criminal penalties can be applied. Pretty weak enforcement mechanism, wouldn't you say?
 
Actually, the tax penalty imparted by Obamacare can only be assessed on your tax return, and no criminal penalties can be applied. Pretty weak enforcement mechanism, wouldn't you say?

I didn't say anything about "criminal penalties" - what I implied was the government was going to get their "fine" from dissenters to his bull**** plan regardless...

Furthermore in what universe do you actually believe the government has the authority to force an individual to buy a product or be fined for not buying said product?

But of course the same people (progressives) that are forcing others to buy a product will claim they're "pro-choice" on numerous issues... ****ing hypocrites...

The ****ing audacity of progressives in this government is sickening...

This **** is authoritarian ANY WAY you slice the pie......

I would love to know what progressives would have to say if George Bush made people spend 100 bucks a month on products from a government "store" - I'm sure they would be out in the streets rioting and burning US flags, however since Obama does the same and since hes "progressive" it's perfectly fine...

Show's how much progressives care about political parties rather than reality....
 
I didn't say anything about "criminal penalties" - what I implied was the government was going to get their "fine" from dissenters to his bull**** plan regardless...

Furthermore in what universe do you actually believe the government has the authority to force an individual to buy a product or be fined for not buying said product?

But of course the same people (progressives) that are forcing others to buy a product will claim they're "pro-choice" on numerous issues... ****ing hypocrites...

The ****ing audacity of progressives in this government is sickening...

This **** is authoritarian ANY WAY you slice the pie......

I would love to know what progressives would have to say if George Bush made people spend 100 bucks a month on products from a government "store" - I'm sure they would be out in the streets rioting and burning US flags, however since Obama does the same and since hes "progressive" it's perfectly fine...

Show's how much progressives care about political parties rather than reality....

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Ha... I say the GOP should fully find it and support it as obamas baby, this way WHEN it fails, WHEN it destroys what's left of the economy, then Obama will not be able to claim it was others that caused the failure.

Oh btw, ever heard of a "teaser" rate?
It's already the democrats baby. All republicans voted NO on it.
 
Are you saying that you cannot get court summons, criminal penalties, wage garnisments, etc. for owing the IRS?
 
Yeah right - that wont work... Obama could kill and eat a baby on live TV then blame republicans and progressives would buy it hook line and sinker...[/quote[

You Are probably right...

Besides, the purpose of Obamacare is to dictate the economy (and individuals) via regulation anyways - much like a communist government dictates/plans their socialist economy.... The second Obamacare is fully implemented the government will start attacking all industries via regulations and taxes (on the industry and the individuals that buy their products) that don't kiss the progressive regimes ass'. In short - if you don't play ball with Obama then the product you sell will be demonized and treated like tobacco, and the excuse the progressives in government will use is "its bad for you hence causes unnecessary health care costs" and of course the sheep will buy that notion and support the tyrannical attack..

Ya, soon it might very well become the communist states of America... Or progressive whatever.

Doesn't change that it's not going to work... And the more it fails the more Obama will blame his opposition for it not working.
 
Yeah right - that wont work... Obama could kill and eat a baby on live TV then blame republicans and progressives would buy it hook line and sinker...

You Are probably right...



Ya, soon it might very well become the communist states of America... Or progressive whatever.

Doesn't change that it's not going to work... And the more it fails the more Obama will blame his opposition for it not working.

That's the intent and posters tell me to put my tinfoil hat on because apparently our government is incapable of being nefarious despite the notion that our government can, has and is currently in fact evil and authoritarian...
 
That's the intent and posters tell me to put my tinfoil hat on because apparently our government is incapable of being nefarious despite the notion that our government can, has and is currently in fact evil and authoritarian...

Ive been preaching that message for almost 15 years now... It's just that now the gloves are starting to come off, and we'll see more and more what the government here is all about.
 
Ive been preaching that message for almost 15 years now... It's just that now the gloves are starting to come off, and we'll see more and more what the government here is all about.

I've seen what the government is about for the last 15 years as well - people are just blind because A) they don't care B) actually believe the propaganda they read (which just makes them partisan) and c) Anyone who questions governments intent or agenda is either anti-American or a loony anarchist that want's to see people die which the MSM does a great job of doing - towing the government superiority over the people...

I've been preaching this **** for years and it does no good - we're all doomed..

The media is the propaganda wing of the progressive democrats, progressive republicans and RINO's...
 
I've seen what the government is about for the last 15 years as well - people are just blind because A) they don't care B) actually believe the propaganda they read (which just makes them partisan) and c) Anyone who questions governments intent or agenda is either anti-American or a loony anarchist that want's to see people die which the MSM does a great job of doing - towing the government superiority over the people...

Agreed

I've been preaching this **** for years and it does no good - we're all doomed..

The media is the propaganda wing of the progressive democrats, progressive republicans and RINO's...

ya, if you were to use the left lean of this site as a guideline, then yes, I'd have to agree that we are doomed. However, talking to people on the streets, you will find that MOST PEOPLE know the government is gone wild...

We might be doomed, but the awakening is now tangible and growing.
 
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