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    Re: Marxist Takeover of America - It's Happening Now

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Koresh was f*cking his own children and planning an armed insurrection.
    You defend that?
    BTW they did torch their own compound and Koresh killed his own kids.
    Do you know that as fact, or as a liberal lemming?

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    Re: Marxist Takeover of America - It's Happening Now

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    You are certainly entitled to you opinion, but factually you don't have much of a leg to stand on.
    He's about as much of a Marxist as many folks are already. If you use class analysis in any way, shape, or form, you are likely already influenced by Marxism. He's just even more so influenced by Marxism, but really, once you step into academia, you're already way beyond redemption for the "there is no class in America" folk. Then we can talk about him believing in communism and the utopia to come of it. In which case, he rejects it by statement and by policy.
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    Re: Marxist Takeover of America - It's Happening Now

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    McCarthy was a pompous ass.

    So what.

    He was correct!
    Largely not, though occasionally he was. The threat of communism, he was largely wrong on. On specific instances of a communistic threat, he was correct.
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    Re: Marxist Takeover of America - It's Happening Now

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Largely not, though occasionally he was. The threat of communism, he was largely wrong on. On specific instances of a communistic threat, he was correct.
    People seem to forget that there was also a sister committee in the House, but they never speak of those folks......only McCarthy.
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    Re: Marxist Takeover of America - It's Happening Now

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    What brings you to the conclusion you can be a communist (that espouses the end of religion) and a muslim at the same time?
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    Re: Marxist Takeover of America - It's Happening Now

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Largely not, though occasionally he was. The threat of communism, he was largely wrong on. On specific instances of a communistic threat, he was correct.
    Believe as you wish.

    I guess if you want to believe what he was incorrectly accused of, you are correct.

    Please keep in kind, he only headed the senate committee for a few of the "red scare" years. The House committee is the one that was responsible for what became known as "McCarthyism," even though he had no part in those proceedings. The man who vilified McCarthy was a leading media voice. Edward Murrow. He abused his media power to vilify McCarthy, who was the only politician very vocal about Communism. Murrow, lost a friend to suicide over the red scare, and blamed McCarthy. McCarthy was only concerned about the spies who were later verified that worked withing our government.

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    Re: Marxist Takeover of America - It's Happening Now

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Believe as you wish.

    I guess if you want to believe what he was incorrectly accused of, you are correct.

    Please keep in kind, he only headed the senate committee for a few of the "red scare" years. The House committee is the one that was responsible for what became known as "McCarthyism," even though he had no part in those proceedings. The man who vilified McCarthy was a leading media voice. Edward Murrow. He abused his media power to vilify McCarthy, who was the only politician very vocal about Communism. Murrow, lost a friend to suicide over the red scare, and blamed McCarthy. McCarthy was only concerned about the spies who were later verified that worked withing our government.
    I'm well aware of the differences between HUAC and Joe.
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    Re: Marxist Takeover of America - It's Happening Now

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Maybe you aren't paying attention...

    Yes, I know... It costs too much to pay attention!
    *durr*if you disagree with me, you're just not paying attention!*durr*

    I pay attention just fine. Since day one, this right-wing argument has been that Obama is trying to weaken or destroy the U.S. I thought it was utter nonsense then, and I think it's utter nonsense now. And I don't even like the guy.
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    Re: Marxist Takeover of America - It's Happening Now

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    I don't know if we willever know the facts behind that event for certain, but I do know this. The Clinton administration did not need to be as authoritative over that action as they were. Can you show me a single incident that warranted such a show and use of force, against US citizens? So what. They violated laws and regulations that are effectively treasonous of the 2nd amendment. Does that form of a civil protest warrant lethal action?
    Some of 'we' may never decide what happened, I am comfortable with survivor accounts of the henchmen starting the fire. There is certainly no pictures of incendiary rounds being used. Massive evidence the building was very poorly constructed and a fire trap.

    The Clinton Administration didn't order the ATF is arrest Koresh at his home, so the start of your statement is flawed. After the botched raid and Federal agents died after the Davidians opened fire first who really thinks ANY administration would just walk away? Can you see BushII just shrugging, snickering and muttering something about 'ya win some ya lose some.' ???

    The Davidians were given enough time to decide to come out peacefully, 51 days. How many times have the Right Wing 'law and order' types said, only shows you shouldn't run away from the police, or don't be stupid infront of the cops when the perp is someone ya don't like?

    Koresh had a violent past to include a gunfight with the owner's son in a fight for control of the compound. The Rodenville 8 trial ended with a hung jury for Koresh, going by the name- Vernon Howell. in 1989 Howell published his 'New Light' in which he said GAWD told him only he should have sex which the follower's women, the other men should remain celibate.

    Now you are trying a CON game to claim lethal action was taken against civil protest. The 'assault' was done only AFTER Federal agents were killed and the Davidians had been given plenty of time to peacefully surrender. The initial raid was conducted against a paranoid man and his followers known to be armed and defiant. IIRC the investigation into the Davidians came after a package broke during a UPS delivery and revealed the trigger groups. So they were not on anyone's radar screen until the Sheriff alerted the ATF.

    The Davidians were tipped off the raid was coming and armed themselves for a fight. Rather do what 99% of us would have done, they chose to meet a lawful search team with weapons.

    I wonder how supportive most would be if a Paranoid Muslim leader trafficked ARs and full-auto trigger groups had his door kicked in.

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    Re: Marxist Takeover of America - It's Happening Now

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Well, in my view, we have a Marxist for a president. i have said that since he ran for the senate, and I think a very large number of people agree with me today.
    Would that be the same "very large number of people" who vote for the LIBERTARIAN PARTY?
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