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    Re: House Republicans seek probe of D.C. monument closures

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Because then we would have to put more people on the payroll to police everyone going to the national monuments.
    Weirdly, they got along just fine without being policed.
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    Re: House Republicans seek probe of D.C. monument closures

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    The park rangers are mostly unarmed and are not there primarily for security.
    Yes they are. There are many park rangers that specialize in security and law enforcement.


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    Re: House Republicans seek probe of D.C. monument closures

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Yes they are. There are many park rangers that specialize in security and law enforcement.
    False. Only Park Police are armed, and they are a much smaller number than the Rangers.
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    Re: House Republicans seek probe of D.C. monument closures

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    That scenic pull-out at Mt Rushmore never had security. Why does it suddenly need it now?
    I dont know what a "scenic pull-out" is...


    And don't spout the party line about channeling traffic. That's clearly a ruse as it was never necessary before, either.
    You are going to need to go more into detail about what exactly is happening.


    Explain that one. (Minnie616 apparently couldn't and gave up.)
    Well i dont know what a "scenic pull out" is and it seems to be a big part of your post.


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    Re: House Republicans seek probe of D.C. monument closures

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Weirdly, they got along just fine without being policed.
    You dont think national monuments are being policed even when the US federal gov is 100% open?


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    Re: House Republicans seek probe of D.C. monument closures

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    False. Only Park Police are armed, and they are a much smaller number than the Rangers.
    Really? Well saying armed rangers pissed off toruists in Yellowstone just 6 days ago..
    Tourists: Armed Park Rangers Used 'Gestapo' Tactics at Yellowstone After Shutdown | Fox News Insider


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    Re: House Republicans seek probe of D.C. monument closures

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    You dont think national monuments are being policed even when the US federal gov is 100% open?
    They never have been in the many visits I've made. People aren't animals; they don't need constant supervision.

    The monuments were not barricaded off in any previous shutdown. The gift shop closed in the Lincoln Memorial. Tours needing guides (like in the Washington Monument) were closed. That was about it. No open-air monuments were closed.

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    Not this:

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    Re: House Republicans seek probe of D.C. monument closures

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Really? Well saying armed rangers pissed off toruists in Yellowstone just 6 days ago..
    Tourists: Armed Park Rangers Used 'Gestapo' Tactics at Yellowstone After Shutdown | Fox News Insider
    I will take a moment to savor the irony of "TheDemSocialist" supporting his point by citing a Fox News blog. That accomplished, I now suggest that you look up the subset of US park rangers known as the park police. You'll find that they supervise the much larger, unarmed, force of park rangers.
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    Re: House Republicans seek probe of D.C. monument closures

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Really? Well saying armed rangers pissed off toruists in Yellowstone just 6 days ago..
    Tourists: Armed Park Rangers Used 'Gestapo' Tactics at Yellowstone After Shutdown | Fox News Insider
    Problem is, the Park Police (part of the NPS) has been dubbed as essential personnel. So they'd be there doing their daily mission (just as many other federal employees). What they're doing with these unnecessary closures actually takes more personnel and costs more money. Frankly, the decision to do this should be probed and thoroughly investigated.

    Since 9/11, the NPS has become more law enforcement-asized. As a kid, I recall the NPS being very friendly and service oriented but have noticed a change in their posture since 9/11. Not all, a lot of the older rangers are still pretty friendly people but the younger ones act like d-bag state troopers with a power trip.

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    Re: House Republicans seek probe of D.C. monument closures

    Hearing today on park closures. Top admin refused to show up so they had to send Marshalls to serve him papers.

    http://www.c-span.org/Events/House-C...10737442080-1/

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