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    Re: House Republicans seek probe of D.C. monument closures

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    Liability is one reason.
    Youre either paying rangers to stand by while people look at the monument, or youre paying rangers/police to stop people from looking at the monument. Whats the difference?

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    Re: House Republicans seek probe of D.C. monument closures

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Youre either paying rangers to stand by while people look at the monument, or youre paying rangers/police to stop people from looking at the monument. Whats the difference?

    Actually they aren't paying many federal employees while requiring they show up for work anyway - with a 'promise' the workers will get paid when the shutdown is ended
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    Re: House Republicans seek probe of D.C. monument closures

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Youre either paying rangers to stand by while people look at the monument, or youre paying rangers/police to stop people from looking at the monument. Whats the difference?
    In most cases less rangers/police are needed to barricade and guard an entrance than to keep the whole area open.
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    Re: House Republicans seek probe of D.C. monument closures

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    In most cases less rangers/police are needed to barricade and guard an entrance than to keep the whole area open.
    That makes no sense. It takes zero people to let people walk around. Ive been there, there were no federalis.

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    Re: House Republicans seek probe of D.C. monument closures

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    In most cases less rangers/police are needed to barricade and guard an entrance than to keep the whole area open.
    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    That makes no sense. It takes zero people to let people walk around. Ive been there, there were no federalis.
    I think you're both stretching a point. There are many more personnel on duty than are seen when a federal facility is open, and it's not a trivial matter to secure the perimeter when it's closed.
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    Re: House Republicans seek probe of D.C. monument closures

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    That makes no sense. It takes zero people to let people walk around. Ive been there, there were no federalis.
    jonny5, I believe what you are missing is that if they allow people onto the property, they accept a certain amount of liability for what happens to those visitors.

    When they can't offer basic security or at least some form of insurance, if someone gets hurt then the government will get eaten alive in the lawsuit.

    It's boring legalese stuff, but it add up to a lot of money in settlements.

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    Re: House Republicans seek probe of D.C. monument closures

    Quote Originally Posted by WillyPete View Post
    jonny5, I believe what you are missing is that if they allow people onto the property, they accept a certain amount of liability for what happens to those visitors.

    When they can't offer basic security or at least some form of insurance, if someone gets hurt then the government will get eaten alive in the lawsuit.

    It's boring legalese stuff, but it add up to a lot of money in settlements.
    Really? Show me where anyone has won a liability suit against the federal govt.

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    Re: House Republicans seek probe of D.C. monument closures

    Quote Originally Posted by WillyPete View Post
    jonny5, I believe what you are missing is that if they allow people onto the property, they accept a certain amount of liability for what happens to those visitors.

    When they can't offer basic security or at least some form of insurance, if someone gets hurt then the government will get eaten alive in the lawsuit.

    It's boring legalese stuff, but it add up to a lot of money in settlements.
    The federal government cannot be sued without its consent.

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    Re: House Republicans seek probe of D.C. monument closures

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    I think you're both stretching a point. There are many more personnel on duty than are seen when a federal facility is open, and it's not a trivial matter to secure the perimeter when it's closed.
    This isnt a federal facility. Its an open air park. All youre doing is proving why a investigation is neccesary.

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    Re: House Republicans seek probe of D.C. monument closures

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    This isnt a federal facility. Its an open air park. All youre doing is proving why a investigation is neccesary.
    Since you have not named the park and seem to want to make this into a guessing game...I will ask a question.

    Is it on federal land?
    Last edited by minnie616; 10-09-13 at 11:21 AM.
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