Try and twist it as you will, the basic concept of the ACA is quite close to that of the Heritage Foundation plan of 1992. Of course with the additional experience of Romneycare in Massachusetts.
As a socialist, I would much prefer the single-payer system found in most to the developed nations but it appears to be so frightening to the right, they will continue to do everything possible to obstruct improving the health of American citizens. Free market capitalism is not the way to get the best results in healthcare.
“And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
~ James Madison, letter to Edward Livingston, July 10, 1822
By the way:
In 2008, when Romney was running for president for the first time, ABC News host Charlie Gibson asked him during a New Hampshire debate, “Governor … you imposed tax penalties in Massachusetts?” Romney replied, “Yes, we said, look, if people can afford to buy it, either buy the insurance or pay your own way; don’t be free riders.” It was the same debate in which he infamously declared, “I like mandates.”
In 2006, Romney explained in a Powerpoint presentation how the state would enforce his mandate. “We will withhold any of their tax refund” for people who don’t purchase insurance, he said. The former governor said the same thing in a 2009 interview with CNN: “There are a number of ways to encourage people to get insurance, and what we did, we said ‘you’re going to lose a tax exemption if you don’t have insurance.
Maybe you should check the facts before repeating the rightwing memo on this.
Anyways, everything you just said is a red herring to the highest degree. I never said anything about the individual mandate, so why did you bring it up? Its not the similarities we are discussing here... but the differences. And the differences ARE restriction of medical underwriting, cuts to reimbursement, and the overall cost of the competitive laws. That is where you lost this debate, and for you to make this about mandates (which I never brought up) is COMPLETELY dishonest.
The way I read the President's quote is that he said that within two decades the ACA will reduce the deficit by over $1 trillion.Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
"This legislation will also lower costs for families and for businesses and for the federal government, reducing our deficit by over $1 trillion in the next two decades. ..."
President Barack Obama Remarks by the President and Vice President at Signing of the Health Insurance Reform Bill The White House, The Office of the Press Secretary March 23, 2010
According to the article I posted the figure for the deficit reduction after two decades is around a trillion..
11 facts about the Affordable Care Act
As time goes on, the savings are projected to grow more quickly than the spending, and CBO expects that the law.will
cut the deficit by around a trillion dollars in its second decade.
So I will agree maybe he was off by a few billion.
Fox news reports that: There may have may have been a misunderstanding because Mount Rushmore park officials say the cones were put up to channel traffic to viewing areas.
Some of the cones were later taken down. [/QUOTE]
Perhaps it was a misunderstanding.
The Argus Leader reports that state officials were told they were put up to "channel cars" into certain viewing areas.
7 things the government shut down that saved practically nothing | Fox News
On April 12, 2006, Massachusetts governor and now presidential candidate Mitt Romney happily signed the landmark Massachusetts Healthcare Reform Act into law at historic Faneuil Hall. As a result, the state, known as a world class medical center, has the most affordable healthcare insurance in the country. It’s healthcare costs are high, but that no longer impedes 99% of the state from having affordable coverage, according to the Blue Cross Blue Shield Foundation, the non profit independent foundation of private state insurance firm Blue Cross & Blue Shield.
Every resident is required by law to have insurance, or pay a fine. To date, 99% of the state’s residents have health insurance, up from around 90% before healthcare reform.
If ObamaCare Is So Bad, How Does RomneyCare Survive? - Forbes