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    Re: House Republicans seek probe of D.C. monument closures

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    Well , my guess would be because of trying to prevent potential vandalism.

    They just finished cleaning the Lincoln Memorial that was vandalized with green paint before the shut down.
    That was done by a deranged illegal immigrant. Little likelihood of anything like that happening again for fifty years. BHO closed the parks and memorials out of spite.
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    Re: House Republicans seek probe of D.C. monument closures

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Sorry Minnie, but you're usually more honest in your arguments than this.

    Firstly, the ACA will be fully implemented well before the first ten years pass - to suggest otherwise is nonsense - and yes, if the act is going to save the federal government, as the President says, over $1 trillion in the next two decades - i.e. by 2030 - then it will have to save hundreds of billions in the first decade.

    Even if one credits your wild take on the President's commitment, the CDC calls out the lie quite clearly. In their estimates attached below, they see the costs of the ACA to the federal government in the years 2012 to 2022 as $1.25 trillion - that's a cost of $1.76 trillion offset by $510 billion in receipts and efficiencies.

    CBO | CBO Releases Updated Estimates for the Insurance Coverage Provisions of the Affordable Care Act

    No matter how you try to hide it, the truth has a way of coming out as my quote below shows. Best to own up to it now instead of looking increasingly foolish by trying to defend the lie.
    Sorry , it is not going save much the first decade because it needs to implemented first.

    The whole USA needs to set up data bases where all medical records of all patients are computerized and can be accessed by any doctor or hospital within the USA as an example.

    Lee County , Florida for example has a good data base set up now, but rural areas do not.

    If a patient is in the system in Lee County, Florida then any doctor or any hospital in the county can access the info.
    They can access any tests such as an MRI , an X-ray , or a blood test for anyone in the system.
    That means there will fewer duplicate tests done on a patient.

    Now once all counties around the USA have their info in the system it will save our country tons of money.


    BTW:

    Your figures are from 2012 and the ACA does not effect until 2014
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    Re: House Republicans seek probe of D.C. monument closures

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    Sorry , it is not going save much the first decade because it needs to implemented first.

    The whole USA needs to set up data bases where all medical records of all patients are computerized and can be accessed by any doctor or hospital within the USA as an example.

    Lee County , Florida for example has a good data base set up now, but rural areas do not.

    If a patient is in the system in Lee County, Florida then any doctor or any hospital in the county can access the info.
    They can access any tests such as an MRI , an X-ray , or a blood test for anyone in the system.
    That means there will fewer duplicate tests done on a patient.

    Now once all counties around the USA have their info in the system it will save our country tons of money.


    BTW:

    Your figures are from 2012 and the ACA does not effect until 2014
    So, number one, you claim that by 2022 the ACA will still not be implemented fully and miraculously it will be fully inplemented and raking in record breaking profits for the federal government thereafter. Number two, you don't trust the CBO (I said CDC in my prior post by mistake but the link was the CBO) to be able to estimate out a decade, from 2012 to 2022, based on the ACA as written with the startup date in 2014?

    Clearly, we're not going to get anywhere here - you're determined to ignore factual evidence in favor of feel good hopes. I hope for your sake and your country's sake that you're even marginally right, but I doubt it.
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    Re: House Republicans seek probe of D.C. monument closures

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    There's no security when it IS open. See, this is why a probe is needed. Someone is either incompetent or abusive.
    There is no security at our national monuments when they are open? Seriously? I was at DC 2 summers ago i saw many park rangers at just about every big monument...


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    Re: House Republicans seek probe of D.C. monument closures

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    There is no security at our national monuments when they are open? Seriously? I was at DC 2 summers ago i saw many park rangers at just about every big monument...
    That scenic pull-out at Mt Rushmore never had security. Why does it suddenly need it now?

    And don't spout the party line about channeling traffic. That's clearly a ruse as it was never necessary before, either.

    Explain that one. (Minnie616 apparently couldn't and gave up.)
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: House Republicans seek probe of D.C. monument closures

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    ... I hope for your sake and your country's sake that you're even marginally right, but I doubt it.
    As time goes on CBO expects that the law will cut the deficit by around a trillion dollars in its second decade.


    The law is expected to spend a bit over $1 trillion in the next 10 years.

    The law's spending cuts -- many of which fall on Medicare -- and tax increases are expected to either save or raise a bit more than that, which is why the Congressional Budget Office estimates that it will slightly reduce the deficit. (There's been some confusion on this point lately, but no, the CBO has not changed its mind about this.) As time goes on, the savings are projected to grow more quickly than the spending, and CBO expects that the law will cut the deficit by around a trillion dollars in its second decade. Here's its graph, which covers the period between 2012 and 2021:
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    Re: House Republicans seek probe of D.C. monument closures

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    There is no security at our national monuments when they are open? Seriously? I was at DC 2 summers ago i saw many park rangers at just about every big monument...
    The park rangers are mostly unarmed and are not there primarily for security.
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    Re: House Republicans seek probe of D.C. monument closures

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    I disagree with your version of history.
    Based on your post, it appears you do disagree with it...then again, you seem to have a tenuous grasp for any version of reality since you seem to think that the thousand page bill, covering all manners of provisions and regulations, that is the ACA is basically "individual mandate" since all your post did was attempt to tie a singular individuals support of something that ALSO included an individual mandate to being broad republican support for the entire "Framework" of ALL of the ACA.

    Perhaps if you meant JUST the mandate you should've claimed JUST the mandate, you claimed the ACA as a whole.

    Also, I'm having issues understanding the consistency of some people so just wanting to clear something up....are you suggesting a legislative action, proposed by a few members of a party, but ultimately failing to actually be successful at garnering support and passing through the congress is legitimately able to be claimed as being a "Framework" created by "The party" in question?

    Because if so....just to stay with the asinine consistency of your argument, the withholding of government funding if a passed legislative action isn't funded is simply building off "the framework" of "the democrats" in 2007.

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    Re: House Republicans seek probe of D.C. monument closures

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    As time goes on CBO expects that the law will cut the deficit by around a trillion dollars in its second decade.



    read more:
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    Again - I prefer the President's own words against the report of the CBO, not someone's interpretation of the report of the CBO. Even if I accept the WP interpretation, we have the CBO saying the ACA will cost the government $1.2 trillion between 2012 and 2022 and the WP says it will cut the deficit by "around" $1 trillion in the second decade. I'm not big on "around" estimates, but that still would make the first two decades of the ACA cost the government $200 billion net. Even in your best case scenario, the President lied to you and American either out of stupidity, or more likely out or a need to mislead the American people.
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    Re: House Republicans seek probe of D.C. monument closures[W:120]

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    I think an investigation is in order!

    BWHHAHAHAHAH!
    And what happens when they are found guilty as charged?

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