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    Re: House Republicans seek probe of D.C. monument closures

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Race card...again. Because of that this post is not even worth my time.
    Race card card again.

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    Re: House Republicans seek probe of D.C. monument closures

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Race card card again.
    Glad we agree it was a race card.
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    Re: House Republicans seek probe of D.C. monument closures

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Glad we agree it was a race card.
    No your's is a race card card.

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    Re: House Republicans seek probe of D.C. monument closures

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    No your's is a race card card.
    Nope. I don't have any race card. Somerville has it. He's the one that played it. Not me. I just noted it and rejected it.
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    Re: House Republicans seek probe of D.C. monument closures

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Firstly, defunding all or part of the ACA is showing an interest in the financial health of your country. Since Obama and Democrats promised that the ACA wouldn't cost the federal government any money and when fully implemented in 10 years would save the country hundreds of billions, just what funding is needed? Shouldn't it be self-funded if Obama and Democrats actually kept their election promises?...
    I disagreed about your timeline that when the ACA was fully implemented in 10 years...it would save the country hundreds of billions.

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post

    I disagree.
    Defunding the ACA will not save the USA money and The President never promised it would save country hundreds of billions when fully implemented.

    You seem to be confusing the ACA with the original plan which was supposed to include a public option in the exchanges.

    Once the public option was eliminated so were most of the savings.

    With the ACA the rate of costs will be slowed but not necessarily lowered.
    Now you admit that the President said the savings over two decades which equals 20 years not 10 years.

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    You can disagree, but you can't establish your own facts.

    "This legislation will also lower costs for families and for businesses and for the federal government, reducing our deficit by over $1 trillion in the next two decades. It is paid for. It is fiscally responsible. And it will help lift a decades-long drag on our economy."

    President Barack Obama Remarks by the President and Vice President at Signing of the Health Insurance Reform Bill The White House, The Office of the Press Secretary March 23, 2010
    And yes the country will see savings because of preventitive health care for all those who did not have insurance before the ACA is/was fully implemented.
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    Re: House Republicans seek probe of D.C. monument closures

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Nope. I don't have any race card. Somerville has it. He's the one that played it. Not me. I just noted it and rejected it.
    The race card card. You're busted.


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    Re: House Republicans seek probe of D.C. monument closures

    From Forbes:


    New Data Suggests Obamacare Is Actually Bending The Healthcare Cost Curve



    A new Congressional Budget Office report out last week has the healthcare world scratching its head over the possibility that Obamacare might—in part—be responsible for what is being described as a significant slowdown in the growth of healthcare costs in America.

    According to the report, hundreds of billions of dollars in federal spending for Medicare and Medicaid are being removed from government projections as federal healthcare spending is now expected to be full 15 percent less than what had been initially budgeted for 2012. The surprisingly low spending projections come as the growth in healthcare spending has hit a new low for the fourth consecutive year.
    New Data Suggests Obamacare Is Actually Bending The Healthcare Cost Curve - Forbes
    When it comes to matters of reproduce health, Politicians and the religious dogma of another faith should never interfere with religious liberty of an individual or her faith.

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    Re: House Republicans seek probe of D.C. monument closures

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    If its shut down, how are they paying people to block off parks?
    Some are kept on the payroll to keep people out.


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    Re: House Republicans seek probe of D.C. monument closures

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    I disagreed about your timeline that when the ACA was fully implemented in 10 years...it would save the country hundreds of billions.



    Now you admit that the President said the savings over two decades which equals 20 years not 10 years.



    And yes the country will see savings because of preventitive health care for all those who did not have insurance before the ACA is/was fully implemented.
    Sorry Minnie, but you're usually more honest in your arguments than this.

    Firstly, the ACA will be fully implemented well before the first ten years pass - to suggest otherwise is nonsense - and yes, if the act is going to save the federal government, as the President says, over $1 trillion in the next two decades - i.e. by 2030 - then it will have to save hundreds of billions in the first decade.

    Even if one credits your wild take on the President's commitment, the CDC calls out the lie quite clearly. In their estimates attached below, they see the costs of the ACA to the federal government in the years 2012 to 2022 as $1.25 trillion - that's a cost of $1.76 trillion offset by $510 billion in receipts and efficiencies.

    CBO | CBO Releases Updated Estimates for the Insurance Coverage Provisions of the Affordable Care Act

    No matter how you try to hide it, the truth has a way of coming out as my quote below shows. Best to own up to it now instead of looking increasingly foolish by trying to defend the lie.
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    Re: House Republicans seek probe of D.C. monument closures

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Repubs get their negotiation as soon as the Russian Roulette stops.
    Even for Repub supporters, Repubs have this Nation's stomachs in knots.
    Yawn. I'm furloughed and enjoying it. Like snow days.
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