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    Re: House Republicans seek probe of D.C. monument closures

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    No, that's incorrect. And using your logic, the Dems said they would negotiate if Obamacare was taken off the table. The Republicans won't budge on taking Obamacare off the table to go after other cuts. They aren't willing to compromise either.

    Taking it off the table is capitulation. Not negotiation or compromise.

    The Dems are refusing.
    Demanding the Republicans capitulate to negotiate is absurd. (and highly unlikely the Dems would then negotiate, especially as there would be no leverage.)
    Now is the time for negotiations, and the Dems are refusing.
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    Re: House Republicans seek probe of D.C. monument closures

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Hence why I said BOTH parties are at fault, neither is wanting to really compromise. I don't hold the Dems better than the GOP. BOTH are horrible and their only success is putting us in debt.

    The problem is the GOP isn't interested in stopping spending either, they just want to spend on the things THEY like. The Bush years taught us that and Romney even more with wanting to give the military MORE money than they were asking for. Neither side is trustworthy.
    Well, I can agree with that in general, which makes me admire the determination and adherance to principle those elected on the Tea Party banner are showing. No one can claim that these new members are part of the historical spending problems and they're trying their best to force change the best way they know how. They don't have sacred cows, like the military - many want to see that cut too.

    It's about time some people ended up in Washington who's way of handling spending and debt doesn't depend upon them dying before it affects them personally.
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    Re: House Republicans seek probe of D.C. monument closures

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    It was extreme because it was being used to kill the bill. No amount of spin can change that, the GOP wanted to delay it for another chance to kill it. An extreme position.
    Are Democrats that afraid of it actually being killed? Like others have said, Republicans have tried to repeal it 40+ times now. If it hasn't been repealed by now its not going to unless Republicans get a majority...are they worried about that? Not from what I have been hearing.
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    Re: House Republicans seek probe of D.C. monument closures

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    They don't have sacred cows, like the military - many want to see that cut too.

    It's about time some people ended up in Washington who's way of handling spending and debt doesn't depend upon them dying before it affects them personally.
    I think their sacred cows are social conservatism and that will be their downfall IMO.

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    Re: House Republicans seek probe of D.C. monument closures

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I think their sacred cows are social conservatism and that will be their downfall IMO.
    Nope, I don't see that at all. The true Tea Party types are only interested in the financial health of the country. They want reduced debt, reduced deficits, and reduced taxes. The social issues aren't really issues of government to them. They're like Canadian conservatives in that regard.
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    Re: House Republicans seek probe of D.C. monument closures

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Nope, I don't see that at all. The true Tea Party types are only interested in the financial health of the country. They want reduced debt, reduced deficits, and reduced taxes. The social issues aren't really issues of government to them. They're like Canadian conservatives in that regard.
    I hope so, but with the bachmaan types trying to be the voice of the tea party folks I just don't see that happening.

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    Re: House Republicans seek probe of D.C. monument closures

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post

    Taking it off the table is capitulation. Not negotiation or compromise.

    The Dems are refusing.
    Demanding the Republicans capitulate to negotiate is absurd. (and highly unlikely the Dems would then negotiate, especially as there would be no leverage.)
    Now is the time for negotiations, and the Dems are refusing.
    What is there left of the health care bill to negotiate away?

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    Re: House Republicans seek probe of D.C. monument closures

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I hope so, but with the bachmaan types trying to be the voice of the tea party folks I just don't see that happening.
    Bachmann isn't a Tea Party type - she just glomed onto the movement to up her profile in the primaries - she saw how Palin worked it and tried to replicate it with zero success. I look more to the relatively silent types found in the tea party caucus in the Republican House caucus who simply stand their ground when it comes to spending and debt issues.
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    Re: House Republicans seek probe of D.C. monument closures

    Repubs, Please put Darrel Issa front and center again in America's face!
    Democrats, remember the last time RepubLies did this?

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    Re: House Republicans seek probe of D.C. monument closures

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    No I completely understand. You are telling me about your imaginary land that you live in and it is not the real world. In the real world the republicans are getting hammered because they refuse to infiltrate their message into new media and to appreciate new voter views. This is the last dieing breaths of your party. They have chosen to ride their train to the end of the line and to stand fast in the light of their own destruction. It will hurt them and you, but you have done so much to be an ass that no one gives a damn anymore about how much you are going to cry. Little victories are all you have left. This will not be the last stand for change. Obama has failed to bring it but the people still want it so they will have it. They are not running back to the old ways of shame and hate. Your people are dying. Enjoy your small little hole because you will be burried in it if you do not wake up and embrace the new age.
    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Poor tererun, still not understanding and still living in a fabricated existence in his own little fantasy world and only wanting something so you can get yours, never minding that it will hurt this country. That is called being myopic.

    No tererun, I am telling you that you are wrong. I have pointed out where your thoughts are wrong.
    I am telling you that the crap you spew, is wrong.
    I am telling you that you living in your fantasy world causes you to be blind to the truth.

    You even fail at understanding that "they" are not my party.
    So stop with your absurd lies.
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