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    The House has enough votes to end the shutdown

    In the hours since the government shut down, House Republicans have slowly but steadily been coming forward to say they're ready to pass a bill to fund the government with no strings attached.

    As of Wednesday afternoon, the number of those Republicans hit 20 -- surpassing the magic 17 votes needed to pass a clean funding bill if all 200 Democrats stick together and team up with them. Of course, House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) would have to be willing to put that bill on the floor in the first place.
    I wonder what the chances of Boehner putting a clean funding bill to a vote are? I'm not going to hold my breath.

    Here's A Tally Of Which House Republicans Are Ready To Fund The Government, No Strings Attached
    Hail to the King baby!

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    Re: The House has enough votes to end the shutdown

    Nonsense! We need our politicians to keep acting like spoiled children! If not, can we truly say we are the US of A?
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    Re: The House has enough votes to end the shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaddelamancha View Post
    I wonder what the chances of Boehner putting a clean funding bill to a vote are? I'm not going to hold my breath.

    Here's A Tally Of Which House Republicans Are Ready To Fund The Government, No Strings Attached
    I wonder why people like you and the media never talk about the Democrats in the House who voted with the Republicans such as the 17 House Democrats who supported the Republican push to eliminate the Obamacare tax on medical devices or the entire body of House Democrats who voted to guarantee the pay of those in the military during the shutdown? Why aren't you asking what the chances are of Senate Democrats taking up these bills for a vote? Because you know that at risk Senate Democrats would have to vote for them or risk losing their seats in 2014.
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    Re: The House has enough votes to end the shutdown

    The Democrats didn't think the Republicans had the balls to do it (frankly, neither did I). They are still blaming the Republicans, and their soft brained supporters believe it. So as far as the Republican party is concerned they have already taken the hit for it. At this point not holding out for what they (we) want would be stupid. The CBO has told us Obamacare will bankrupt us, the Democrats and the President don't care because they have no intention of doing anything about the national debt. Eventually each member will be out of power and the long term problems will not be their problems, so they are ignoring them anyway. At some point the out of control spending has to stop, and this is as good a time as any. I tell you, when I took control of my debt and cut up the credit cards my nuts crawled up to about my neck. It's scary as hell, and it was one of the best things I ever did. People keep saying the debt can't be fixed, it's not true. It can be fixed and it needs to be. Congress members will only be Congress members for a short time, we will be Americans for a long time. What the Republicans are doing right now, believe it of not, IS the responsible thing to do.

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    Re: The House has enough votes to end the shutdown

    The names of the ones who actually vote for it will be going onto my list of individuals whom I will never vote for. Their national political careers will be over so far as I'm concerned and any run for the White House in their future could not and would not be supported by me.

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    Re: The House has enough votes to end the shutdown

    But the CBO was guessing, granted educated guessing, but still guessing.

    Turns out, the premiums are cheaper than what the CBO used in their estimates. As of yet, I haven't seen any new projects from the CBO concerning the lower premiums.

    I don't know how this stalemate will turn out, but either way, we Americans are getting screwed.

    Obamacare premiums will be cheaper than the CBO projected.


    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    The Democrats didn't think the Republicans had the balls to do it (frankly, neither did I). They are still blaming the Republicans, and their soft brained supporters believe it. So as far as the Republican party is concerned they have already taken the hit for it. At this point not holding out for what they (we) want would be stupid. The CBO has told us Obamacare will bankrupt us, the Democrats and the President don't care because they have no intention of doing anything about the national debt. Eventually each member will be out of power and the long term problems will not be their problems, so they are ignoring them anyway. At some point the out of control spending has to stop, and this is as good a time as any. I tell you, when I took control of my debt and cut up the credit cards my nuts crawled up to about my neck. It's scary as hell, and it was one of the best things I ever did. People keep saying the debt can't be fixed, it's not true. It can be fixed and it needs to be. Congress members will only be Congress members for a short time, we will be Americans for a long time. What the Republicans are doing right now, believe it of not, IS the responsible thing to do.
    Hail to the King baby!

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    Re: The House has enough votes to end the shutdown

    Government by cowardice: Boehner won't bring a clean CR to the floor because it will pass and then the freakish tea party caucus will go after his head.

    They are totally unhinged and he's totally craven.

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    Re: The House has enough votes to end the shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I wonder why people like you and the media never talk about the Democrats in the House who voted with the Republicans such as the 17 House Democrats who supported the Republican push to eliminate the Obamacare tax on medical devices or the entire body of House Democrats who voted to guarantee the pay of those in the military during the shutdown? Why aren't you asking what the chances are of Senate Democrats taking up these bills for a vote? Because you know that at risk Senate Democrats would have to vote for them or risk losing their seats in 2014.
    It won't get by the senate or Ovbama so that side is irrelevant. Sorry, but the only way the minority is holding things up is by just not allowing the vote which would pass at this point. That is not democracy, that is a minority holding the country hostage. Leave it to the christian taliban to terrorize the US better than any other terrorist organization. Now we see why fundamentalists in the government do not work.

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    Re: The House has enough votes to end the shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaddelamancha View Post
    I wonder what the chances of Boehner putting a clean funding bill to a vote are? I'm not going to hold my breath.

    Here's A Tally Of Which House Republicans Are Ready To Fund The Government, No Strings Attached
    Not yet, but give it time.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: The House has enough votes to end the shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    It won't get by the senate or Ovbama so that side is irrelevant. Sorry, but the only way the minority is holding things up is by just not allowing the vote which would pass at this point. That is not democracy, that is a minority holding the country hostage. Leave it to the christian taliban to terrorize the US better than any other terrorist organization. Now we see why fundamentalists in the government do not work.
    This is just nonsense. Last time I checked, the Republicans are no more a minority in the House than Democrats are a minority in the Senate. To suggest that only a minority passed the House motions is a flat out lie paraded by liberals and the media to protect the Senate and the President.

    You want the House to take up a vote that some Democrats will support to create a majority, but you don't want the Senate to take up a House vote that some Democrats will support and create a majority and you don't want it to pass both houses of congress because the President will veto it. So, in other words, you're quite happy with Democrat intransigence but offended by Republican intransigence. Got it.

    Just another apologist for Obama and Democrats hiding behind an "Other" lean.
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