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    Re: The House has enough votes to end the shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    In fact, *most* of the government is still running. There is no such thing as a "shut down" but look at you all run around like its the end of the world lol
    Its true that most of its still running, and that much of that is running off reserve funds not yet spent in the last fiscal year. The government will never be totally "shutdown" where 100% of employees and government run offices and organizations are not functioning, but whether you want to call that a shut down or something else makes no difference to me. It is what it is.

    And no its not the end of the world Mr. Hyerpbole, but it is completely uncalled for seeing as how its only the tea party minority of the Republicans holding this process up. Since we know that the majority of the House, via a combination of Dems and some Reps, would pass a funding bill without attempting to repeal/defund Obamacare and that the Senate and President would sign such a bill, it is only the threat of a primary challenge and the desire to save face that's preventing such a bill froming coming up from a bill.

    And even though the majority of the government is still working for the time being, that will not continue to be the case unless many of these agencies get additional sources of funding soon. In a bit of completely anecdotal evidence I have a friend at the US patent office who told me they would be furloughed at the end of the month if the shut down went on for that long but they are running now at mostly 100% staffing by using mostly left over FY13 money.

    Additionally the VA has credited this shut down with an increase in the length of time it takes for veterans to file appeals and requests for benefits.

    VA Chief: Shutdown Could Hit Millions of Vets - ABC News

    VA blaming claims backlog uptick on shutdown - News - Stripes

    This thing has consequences which aren't worth whatever Republicans are trying to get out of it which according to one guy, they don't even know what that is yet.

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    Re: The House has enough votes to end the shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Its true that most of its still running, and that much of that is running off reserve funds not yet spent in the last fiscal year. The government will never be totally "shutdown" where 100% of employees and government run offices and organizations are not functioning, but whether you want to call that a shut down or something else makes no difference to me. It is what it is.

    And no its not the end of the world Mr. Hyerpbole, but it is completely uncalled for seeing as how its only the tea party minority of the Republicans holding this process up. Since we know that the majority of the House, via a combination of Dems and some Reps, would pass a funding bill without attempting to repeal/defund Obamacare and that the Senate and President would sign such a bill, it is only the threat of a primary challenge and the desire to save face that's preventing such a bill froming coming up from a bill.

    And even though the majority of the government is still working for the time being, that will not continue to be the case unless many of these agencies get additional sources of funding soon. In a bit of completely anecdotal evidence I have a friend at the US patent office who told me they would be furloughed at the end of the month if the shut down went on for that long but they are running now at mostly 100% staffing by using mostly left over FY13 money.

    Additionally the VA has credited this shut down with an increase in the length of time it takes for veterans to file appeals and requests for benefits.

    VA Chief: Shutdown Could Hit Millions of Vets - ABC News

    VA blaming claims backlog uptick on shutdown - News - Stripes

    This thing has consequences which aren't worth whatever Republicans are trying to get out of it which according to one guy, they don't even know what that is yet.
    Remind me how many Republicans voted for ACA for this to be uncalled for.

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    Re: The House has enough votes to end the shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Remind me how many Republicans voted for ACA for this to be uncalled for.
    Not really relevant is it? How is that an important fact at all?

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    Re: The House has enough votes to end the shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Not really relevant is it? How is that an important fact at all?
    You said this was all uncalled for. It is completely called for.

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