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    So you admit its constitutional - thanks. I appreciate your dedication to honesty, but sadly that falls short when you say democrats wanted to negotiate a budget over the past year. The democrats have refused to negotiate over the issue of obamacare since they used parliamentary trickery to get it adopted after Mass. replaced Kennedy with a Republican. In fact we haven't had a budget since then because democrats could never negotiation on one that cuts obamacare out of the budget; and Republicans are certainly within their rights to fund what parts of the government they want - or at least try too.

    There is only one party here and one leader here that is letting this nation down. People are starting to see it - which is why harry is unraveling. People see the House Republicans passing measures, asking for negotiations and the dictator in charge demanding his way or the highway. We get it - the people get it - the democrats will lose! I hope this closure lasts until the Nov. election - I really do - 13 months - I'm all for it. Then the people will decide who's within their rights, who is right, and who is being obtuse and pathetic.


    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    It may not be in the constitution but it doesn't make what the republicans are doing right. They had plenty of time to negotiate a budget over the past year, the democrats have been wanting to negotiate on this and the republicans just flat out refused to show up. Now when the government is being held hostage and vital services are going undone they want to debate every little thing and vote piece by piece to bring things back online?

    That just makes absolutely no sense and are abandoning their duty to govern.

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    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    What we really need is for the Obama administration to employ the normal budget procedure rather than the CR bit. That's what precipitates these all or nothing showdowns they seem so fond of. Reid doesn't give a damn about those kids. They've employed this method for 5 years now, and every single time they use it, it's an attempt to marginalize the political right and avoid the normal appropriations procedure because that would require a level of transparency the Obama administration cannot afford. In short, the whole political left is lying every breathing moment of every day.
    It would also help if we had a law-abiding President who would follow the law he promoted, and not hand out waivers to favored supporters and donors. Obama, Reid and Pelosi (and their followers) are attempting to scrap the Constitution in favor of their whims, and they are actually being fairly successful in distracting the public from this intent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    It would also help if we had a law-abiding President who would follow the law he promoted, and not hand out waivers to favored supporters and donors. Obama, Reid and Pelosi (and their followers) are attempting to scrap the Constitution in favor of their whims, and they are actually being fairly successful in distracting the public from this intent.
    It would help, but as you said, that's not what we're to focus on right now. We are to focus on a closed government and assign blame. I think the House should shut down and go home until Obama and Reid can offer some compromise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Now, now. Harry grew up in Stopgap, Nevada. Living out of an old tin can as a child, he is a self made man, with a little help from the Nevada Gaming Commission, a few crooked real estate deals, and a Mormon faith he trots out when someone dares to point out that he is a criminal - in other words he is a prototypical democrat politician. What's not to like?
    LOL - I dunno. You certainly covered it all.

    From a recent article:
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    "We're through playing these little games," Reid said, with House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi by his side.
    Good. Time to grow up, both of you - Harry, Nancy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Reid gets fiery over question about shutdown’s effect on clinical trials for kids – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

    His comments might be showing signs of dementia; not sure? I mean to say they can't pick and choose what they want to fund - um yes Harry they can pick and choose what they want to fund that is exactly what the Constitution grants them the power to do. You too harry can pick and choose what your Senate wants to fund. You don't want to fund medical care for children with cancer that's on you - loser.
    Yet sadly they either don't get this or blatantly lie to the American People....I have a good notion as to which it is, it is a pastime of liberals.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Agree with Reid 100%. You can't start to pick and choose what you want to fund at this point when the government is shut down and it is harming our country. We need a clean bill that funds the whole government.

    The republicans are just doing this for PR and nothing more and it disgusts me that these kids are being used as political pawns by them. It's sickening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    It may not be in the constitution but it doesn't make what the republicans are doing right. They had plenty of time to negotiate a budget over the past year, the democrats have been wanting to negotiate on this and the republicans just flat out refused to show up. Now when the government is being held hostage and vital services are going undone they want to debate every little thing and vote piece by piece to bring things back online?

    That just makes absolutely no sense and are abandoning their duty to govern.
    No - they are listen to their constituents, like us. I support what they're doing 100%. This bill, as you acknowledge, is unconstitutional. The Republicans have offered up several compromises already - bills THAT WOULD FUND THE GOVERNMENT, but which DO NOT fund Obamacare. Period. All the president and Harry Reid need to do is sign the bill and then this "hostage crisis" that they've initiated with their petulant insistance on funding that unconstitutional program would be over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinWillers View Post
    No - they are listen to their constituents, like us. I support what they're doing 100%. This bill, as you acknowledge, is unconstitutional. The Republicans have offered up several compromises already - bills THAT WOULD FUND THE GOVERNMENT, but which DO NOT fund Obamacare. Period. All the president and Harry Reid need to do is sign the bill and then this "hostage crisis" that they've initiated with their petulant insistance on funding that unconstitutional program would be over.
    Not to mention Obama has already Cherry Picked the bill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Not to mention Obama has already Cherry Picked the bill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinWillers View Post
    Ahyup.
    Which he DOESN'T have authority to do.
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