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    Re: GOP senator objects to budget conference committee

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    ..and that is just one of the many pretty obvious ways you know this law is crap.
    well the law is what it is.

    unless you have any better ideas at improving the law, the law stands as it is.

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    Re: GOP senator objects to budget conference committee

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    well the law is what it is.

    unless you have any better ideas at improving the law, the law stands as it is.
    Why do I need better ideas? Why can't we just repeal a law that forces people into commerce and involuntary servitude? Why is that stance unacceptable?

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    Re: GOP senator objects to budget conference committee

    Well, well, I do apologize. I must have missed that. Who were the Senate's conferees appointed to resolve differences between House and Senate resolutions?
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: GOP senator objects to budget conference committee

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Why do I need better ideas? Why can't we just repeal a law that forces people into commerce and involuntary servitude? Why is that stance unacceptable?
    why not fix that one part and leave the rest of the law alone?

    or better yet find a way to replace the mandate with somthing that encourages participation in the market place?

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    Re: GOP senator objects to budget conference committee

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    maybe because the individual mandate is the only guarantee in actually funding the affordable care act?
    Actually, if I'm not mistaken, a young person without health insurance who works for a business that has 50 plus employees would, under Obamacare, be covered through employer provided insurance if the government didn't delay the implementation of that part of the act. As a result, that young person now has to seek insurance his/herself or pay a penalty. So, to use your logic, Obama and Sebilius shouldn't have given businesses the waiver because it is "the only guarantee in actually funding the affordable care act".

    Where I come from, when a government passes a piece of legislation and it turns out there are serious problems in the implementation or the wording/provisions of the act, the government does the responsible thing and delays implementation until the bugs can be worked out.
    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F. Buckley Jr.

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    Re: GOP senator objects to budget conference committee

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Well, well, I do apologize. I must have missed that. Who were the Senate's conferees appointed to resolve differences between House and Senate resolutions?
    it never got that far because the republicans or someone has been blocking attempts at making a conference committee.

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    Re: GOP senator objects to budget conference committee

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    well the law is what it is.

    unless you have any better ideas at improving the law, the law stands as it is.
    If insurance is so needed by the masses that they are begging to purchase it, why not make the purchase voluntary?
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: GOP senator objects to budget conference committee

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    it never got that far because the republicans or someone has been blocking attempts at making a conference committee.
    I'm not sure they have the ability to block the appointment of conferees. For the Dems, that would be Harry's purview...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: GOP senator objects to budget conference committee

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    why not fix that one part and leave the rest of the law alone?

    or better yet find a way to replace the mandate with somthing that encourages participation in the market place?
    Because I'm not just talking about the individual mandate. If you wanted to get rid of forced commerce and involuntary servitude the entity of the law has to be trashed.

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    Re: GOP senator objects to budget conference committee

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    You've stated the obvious, but not given a rationale for why Republicans would now be wise to lift the shutdown in order to conference with Senate Democrats. Perhaps you believe in the Obama method of negotiation, where you threaten and threaten and then back down when the rubber hits the road. It's been a disasterous strategy for Obama so why should Republicans take it up?

    Republicans have two options now - either stand by the principles they were voted in to represent or cave in and simply vote in favor of what the White House and Democrats want. I hope they retain a backbone and stick to principles. If they do, over time, the blame will flip over to Obama and people will question why everyone else can get a delay in Obamacare implementation but the average citizen can't.
    Good afternoon, CJ.

    It's already being questioned, because it's unfair. When unions, some businesses, and people raising money by bundling for the Dems can get an exemption from a law, but the average guy on the street can't, it does cause outraged indignation! Playing obvious favoritism is not a good-will maker under any scenario. Try giving one child more ice cream than another if you want to see what I mean! Even kids object to perceived favoritism. :

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