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    Re: John Boehner: Obama owns this shutdown now

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    What would have happened with the economy if we had taken a meat-axe to all portions of the economy equally in Obama's 1st budget? Imagine the Repub screamers on defense. Imagine every lobbying group. Besides, zero economists agreed with that approach.What choice did Obama have on the TAD?
    If Repubs led by Norquist and the TEAtards had not sabotaged their own Sen. Coburn's plan in July of 2011, we'd be 2 years from a balanced budget. Coburn put it out after reelection when he was safe and will be retiring from this insanity in 2016. It was an 8 for 1 swap and remember the Repub candidates at their debate? They rejected a 10 for 1 swap--complete lunacy.
    Oh there are lot of choices.
    It is clear you think the dems have the answers and you only want to blame one side of the equation.

    Why has the Senate failed to produce a budget beyond a CR for over four years?

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    Re: John Boehner: Obama owns this shutdown now

    You should read Sen. Coburn's back-in-black plan from July of 2011. At least the outline, which is clear enough.
    It is an easy Google. If Dr. Coburn can win me over, he should be able to win nonTEAtards.
    Also, as a retired teacher whose birthday is on Sandy Hook which I'm dreading this year, #60, I'm all in on concealed-carry in schools and have found dozens of schools with a CC program just by Google.
    Not bad for a Lincoln Democrat, eh?
    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    and what mess has been cleaned up?
    Debt still increasing, no passed budget in more than four years beyond a CR.


    So if it was wrong in the past to overspend, then it ok to continue doing it?

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    Re: John Boehner: Obama owns this shutdown now

    did you not see their budget this year?
    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post

    Why has the Senate failed to produce a budget beyond a CR for over four years?

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    Re: John Boehner: Obama owns this shutdown now

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    Oh there are lot of choices.
    Sen. Coburn has the only comprehensive program I've seen and he's not exactly a moderate Republican.
    It is clear you think the dems have the answers and you only want to blame one side of the equation.
    Please don't make me say that you can't take yes for an answer. I take **** every day for my CC stance here in Illinois.
    I support a plan to save our public pensions that has ****ed everyone off on "my side". I clearly "get it" with Sen. Coburn's balanced budget plan. I support my Repub Congressman for his work with Veterans and defend him for wanting to take out ASSad. I'm actually quite sick of defending myself as not a loon on one side or the other, because the goalposts will be moved.

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    Re: John Boehner: Obama owns this shutdown now

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    Oh there are lot of choices.
    It is clear you think the dems have the answers and you only want to blame one side of the equation.

    Why has the Senate failed to produce a budget beyond a CR for over four years?
    The Senate passed a Budget in March and it was promptly buried in the House. Boner refused conference.
    Does that answer your question? Reid is not into infantile, futile behavior like Boner. He knew it was a waste of time all along.

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    Re: John Boehner: Obama owns this shutdown now

    And yet they will continue to repeat the lie that the Senate has not passed a budget this year.
    They must not remember the House and the rightie spit wadders mocking the Senate.
    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    The Senate passed a Budget in March and it was promptly buried in the House. Boner refused conference.
    Does that answer your question? Reid is not into infantile, futile behavior like Boner. He knew it was a waste of time all along.

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    Re: John Boehner: Obama owns this shutdown now

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    did you not see their budget this year?
    Correct me if I am wrong, the Senate had a budget plan, the House had a budget plan, neither could reconcile, so back to the old CR. The CR is what was passed and signed by Obama. A CR basically has the govt spending like they did in the past.
    That has congress has operated for many years.

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    Re: John Boehner: Obama owns this shutdown now

    The Senate passed a budget. The House passed their budget. There was ZERO reconciliation because the House refused 18 times to go to conference. I want this to end as much as you do I hope, but not with the proverbial gun to my head.
    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    Correct me if I am wrong, the Senate had a budget plan, the House had a budget plan, neither could reconcile, so back to the old CR.
    That has congress has operated for many years.
    Last edited by NIMBY; 10-03-13 at 12:55 AM.

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    Re: John Boehner: Obama owns this shutdown now

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    The Senate passed a Budget in March and it was promptly buried in the House. Boner refused conference.
    Does that answer your question? Reid is not into infantile, futile behavior like Boner. He knew it was a waste of time all along.
    Look, I am not going to get into the tit for tat. Both sides for years have not worked well in formulating budgets. Hence the CR.
    I could come back and say well the House, which really is where budgets should start, passed a budget, which the Senate trashed.
    So what is your point of yea the Senate passed a bill. So what, Until both houses can agree, its not a budget.

    is far as Reid, Pelosi.........they are carrier politicians just like the other side has.

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    Re: John Boehner: Obama owns this shutdown now

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Haven't we had this discussion before where you said the majority of Americans don't want this law and then I said the majority rejected the GOP's attempt to repeal the law and voted for Obama instead?
    You think the election was 100% about Obamacare?

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