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    Re: John Boehner: Obama owns this shutdown now

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Because asking for the undermining of the affordable care act is the same demand as the last forty attempts to undermine it. Obamacare is too high a price.
    Okay prove it. I think Cruz tried to in his speech and got caught in a major lie which Faux, and the rest of the Teatards ignored.

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    Re: John Boehner: Obama owns this shutdown now

    Quote Originally Posted by greengirl77 View Post
    Okay prove it. I think Cruz tried to in his speech and got caught in a major lie which Faux, and the rest of the Teatards ignored.
    Is it ok with you that the feds borrow approximately $0.40 of every dollar they spend? My question has nothing to do with the ACA.

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    Re: John Boehner: Obama owns this shutdown now

    And you are misleading posters when you say that I am misleading posters that 25 Repub Senators were in favor of a clean CR. I have clearly stated that 25 Repub Senators voted Yes to allow the clean CR to be voted on, and then they voted NO. I will not allow you to spin this any other way.
    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    I don't worry about other poster's actions, but you are misleading when you post 25 Repub Senators were in favor of a clean CR. Just face facts...

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    Was it ok for the feds to borrow the money you mentioned on Obama's first budget?
    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    Is it ok with you that the feds borrow approximately $0.40 of every dollar they spend? My question has nothing to do with the ACA.

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    Re: John Boehner: Obama owns this shutdown now

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    Is it ok with you that the feds borrow approximately $0.40 of every dollar they spend? My question has nothing to do with the ACA.
    Well considering not one Republican was crying about Regan, Bush 1, Bush 2 spending everything they could get their hands on. Bush 2 was handed a surplus and wasted it. I have a problem with it for 30 years now. However to hear a Republican cry about it is funny because they are some of the biggest spender we have ever seen. Tell me one Republican President that has lowered the deficit since 1981.

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    Re: John Boehner: Obama owns this shutdown now

    unless you consider the reimplementation of the filibuster a dire consequence, which it is---parliamentary tricks are not Boehner's forte
    Quote Originally Posted by Fishstyx View Post
    There were no dire consequences to refusing to conference then, there are now. Its how divided government works, negotiations occur when stakes are high. Not sure why so many don't get this concept.

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    Re: John Boehner: Obama owns this shutdown now

    Quote Originally Posted by FederalRepublic View Post
    It's also common knowledge that the senate failed to pass a budget for four years under Harry Reid's leadership. How have the republicans been refusing to go to conference when there hasn't been anything to conference over?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/24/us...ears.html?_r=0
    Whoa, it looks like each side made a wish list, doesn't it? Nevertheless, both sides produced a budget and they should have gone to conference way back in March instead of waiting hours before the debt ceiling deadline. So why didn't they?



    "....Passage of the competing spending plans does advance a more orderly budget process after nearly three years of crises and brinkmanship. If House and Senate negotiators can agree on a framework for overhauling the tax code and entitlement programs like Medicare, Congress’s committees could go to work on detailed legislation, possibly under special rules that protect the bills from a Senate filibuster...."


    Quote Originally Posted by FederalRepublic View Post
    Why did the senate send back a bill they knew wouldn't pass the house?
    I don't think either side expected the other to pass each others bill right out of the gate. Instead, each side seems to have put all their pet projects and demands in their bills thinking they would spend the next six months negotiating and hashing it out to come up with something both sides could agree with. I understand that the Senate even appointed conferees, but Boehner refused to appoint any from the House. Why?

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    Re: John Boehner: Obama owns this shutdown now

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    They don't have the votes to repeal it. So they want to hurt America for not giving them more destructive power.

    That's how sick and nihilistic conservatism is.
    It wasn't conservatism that gave us the ObamaCare scam. Those who are responsible for this train wreck, and those who continue to defend it, are in no position to call anyone else “sick and nihilistic”.
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    We can be Godless and free. • “Social justice” through forced redistribution of wealth. • Silencing religious opinions counts as “diversity”. • Freedom without moral and personal responsibility. • Civilization can survive the intentional undermining of the family.

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    Re: John Boehner: Obama owns this shutdown now

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    It wasn't conservatism that gave us the ObamaCare scam. Those who are responsible for this train wreck, and those who continue to defend it, are in no position to call anyone else “sick and nihilistic”.
    You would need to understand the mental condition of the poster to place the posts somewhere in reality
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    Re: John Boehner: Obama owns this shutdown now

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    which doesn't answer the charge that they voted yes to allow the measure to be voted on and THEN voted NO to stop the measure--now there is no filibuster unless the Senate goes to conference, which the House refused to do 18 times--and Dems accepted your budget sequester #
    Good evening, NIMBY!

    All apparently legally done following the rules. I must remember to give thanks to whichever deity is responsible for seeing that I did not go to law school when I had the opportunity to do so. I think I would probably be in a padded cell now, knowing that I did understand what convoluted routes they can take to achieve a goal. I'm convinced I'm better off not knowing! :

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