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    Re: John Boehner: Obama owns this shutdown now

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Appropriations are not the budget. You got the budget part right in that it is a framework for all spending which includes mandatory and discretionary. But the House and Senate budget committees don't determine how the "discretionary" money is appropriated because the Appropriation committees do that and they work within the framework of the budget.
    Read post #87.

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    Re: John Boehner: Obama owns this shutdown now

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    What's funny is that you, and many like you, think that those of us who are opposed to the ObamaCare scam are the extremists. The ObamaCare scam is the product of unprecedented extremism. The devastating effect that it is already having, and will yet have on our economy is going to be extreme.

    What is not extreme is those who are trying to stop it, and minimize the damage.
    Romney was an extremist when he implemented it in Massachusetts? Or is it because implementing it nationally is extreme? Or are there significant differences between the implementations where obamacare is extreme? If so, what are they?

    Sorry, but it is not extreme. It was proposed by the American Heritage Foundation, which is a conservative think tank. It is part and parcel a centrist conservative idea. So much so that my own support for it is dubious. But what I will never support is the extremist actions taken to engage in extreme partisanship in an attempt to keep it from being successful in any way.

    It was duly passed and the House must fund the government. It can be repealed when Republicans have enough control to do so. That is the responsible route that is non extreme.
    You can never be safe from a government that can keep you completely safe from each other and the world. You must choose.

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    Re: John Boehner: Obama owns this shutdown now

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    If the American people think that this is anyone but Obama and Reid's fault they ARE as delusional as I thought...
    Maybe but the American people are the ones who get to vote on who represents them in Washington.
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    Re: John Boehner: Obama owns this shutdown now

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Yep, and eight of those times (20%) the bills went to the Senate who passed it and the President signed it...you agree right?

    Health Care - GOP.gov
    Just finished reading through your link. Very helpful.
    However, the Republicans harped on "Repeal and Replace" they seem to have forgotten about the "Replace" part.

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    Re: John Boehner: Obama owns this shutdown now

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    If the American people think that this is anyone but Obama and Reid's fault they ARE as delusional as I thought...

    Honestly. Congress and the Senate are to blame. Suggesting this is on Obama is typical right wing radio nonsense.

    Meanwhile all of those bastards are still getting paid.

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    Re: John Boehner: Obama owns this shutdown now

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    Honestly. Congress and the Senate are to blame. Suggesting this is on Obama is typical right wing radio nonsense.

    Meanwhile all of those bastards are still getting paid.
    I don't know what the Senate can do with the Tea Party Occupation Forces in the House hellbent on destroying ACA. The teabaggers will do anything to stop it, including shutting down the government and defaulting on US obligations. They are that deep into Obamaphobia. There is no reasoning with them. It just has to be played out and hope that rational Americans will recall the freaks in the tea party caucus.

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    Re: John Boehner: Obama owns this shutdown now

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Let's pretend that the House didn't turn down the Senate's 18 prior offers to conference over the past year.

    Let's pretend. It's all conservative can do.
    So then you agree, the Democrats in the Senate denied conference in the house. Thats all you had to say in lieu of the drivel you added.

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    Re: John Boehner: Obama owns this shutdown now

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    You've got it totally backwards. Both dems and repubs agree the debt ceiling needs to be raised in order to pay the bills, but it's only republicans holding the country hostage if Obama doesn't defund his own healthcare bill.

    Do you have any idea how much the republican's "blackmailing" the government is going to cost?

    $300 million a day



    Thats not very fiscally responsible of the republicans, now is it?
    We can cut services and pay our bills, the ****ing democrats rammed that ****ty legislation down our throats and now everyone that already had great insurance saw their rates increase eclipsing raises. **** the democrats, let them suffer.

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    Re: John Boehner: Obama owns this shutdown now

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    the leadership gets to decide what bills get to the floor.

    and what many of these bills that harry reid tabled were bills trying to gut EPA regulations, or gutting Financial regulations.
    You mean compromise? To hell with that!

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    Re: John Boehner: Obama owns this shutdown now

    Quote Originally Posted by FederalRepublic View Post
    You mean compromise? To hell with that!
    if you cannot compromise, how will anything get done.

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