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Government shutdown: House GOP to delay individual mandate

All that this shutdown proves is that the Republicans and the Democrats are ****ing the whole thing up. Both parties should boot out the extremists and take back their parties.
 
Except that no one is stealing insurance dollars. :roll:

O'rly? What makes you think that such dollars aren't be allocated to cover the deficit from treating the uninsured? I happen to know a few people in the insurance industry who are telling me that's exactly what's happening.

You also don't mandate personal responsibility.

You also don't encourage people to free ride like the GOP does.
 
So be it, but it's really the American people who will pay for the unwillingness of the Democrats and Leftists to accept that the majority of Americans do not like th elegislation they passes, and want it seriously modified, if not repealed entirely.
Where do you get this kind of stuff from?
We just had a Presidential Election that centered on the Affordable Care Act.
The Affordable Care Act WON.

It is not Legislation.
It was signed into Law. It is LAW.
It was challenged and then upheld by a Right Wing leaning Supreme Court.
And then we had a National Election on it!!!

This Government Shut down does not slow down or hender Obamacare in any way shape or form.
It is merely a tantrum that will cost the United States Economy and cost the GOP seats in the house during 2014.

And if the GOP decides to set our Bond Rating at a Triple B by defaulting on our National Debt... One of the great Ironies of our lifetime is the fact that one of the few things standing will be the LAW called the Affordable Care Act or (Obamacare)
https://www.healthcare.gov/
 
O'rly? What makes you think that such dollars aren't be allocated to cover the deficit from treating the uninsured? I happen to know a few people in the insurance industry who are telling me that's exactly what's happening.

Yes, when the uninsured get treatment that raises the cost of healthcare. That isn't exactly news and it isn't theft.

You also don't encourage people to free ride like the GOP does.

That is what stupid government policy does, not the GOP.
 
I'm more concerned with Present Moment awareness, not Republican history rewriting.

then i have to tell you then, from 1980 to 1986 the republicans controlled the WH and the senate, with the democrats in the house.

do you think they rolled over and did exactly what the republicans wanted to do......no.

nothing your seeing today is not knew its happened before......it just you only see it from one side.
 
Yes, when the uninsured get treatment that raises the cost of healthcare. That isn't exactly news and it isn't theft

It is theft when the same insurance dollars that were suppose to go to providing coverage for those in that insurance pool are now being used to pay for people outside of that insurance pool without the consent of those within that insurance pool.

That is functionally theft.

And the GOP's plan encourages more of it.

That is what stupid government policy does, not the GOP.

Except the policies that encourage is are the GOP's policy. Therefore it is the GOP.

It's funny watching self proclaimed right leaning posters argue AGAINST a reduction in the the theft of insurance dollars. The same people who argue that taxation is theft because it's redistribution. Functionally, we have the same thing, EXCEPT that the insurance payers often have no control or say in this unlike voters.
 
Obama had to take a stand. If he had caved then there would be no end to the blackmail.
 
It is theft when the same insurance dollars that were suppose to go to providing coverage for those in that insurance pool are now being used to pay for people outside of that insurance pool without the consent of those within that insurance pool.

That is functionally theft.

That is misuse of funds.


Except the policies that encourage is are the GOP's policy. Therefore it is the GOP.

Whatever you say.

It's funny watching self proclaimed right leaning posters argue AGAINST a reduction in the the theft of insurance dollars. The same people who argue that taxation is theft because it's redistribution. Functionally, we have the same thing, EXCEPT that the insurance payers often have no control or say in this unlike voters.

Taking money against the will of someone and misusing funds you received from someone on their own free will is not at all the same thing.
 
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Fine. Then just destroy the _______ Nation's economy because you don't like the ACA. When Dems get the House back, let's put every gun control on money bills. Let's have a crisis every 6 weeks, which Repub Wall Streeters hate. Please give us another TEAdowngrade as in 2011. Happy now?
then i have to tell you then, from 1980 to 1986 the republicans controlled the WH and the senate, with the democrats in the house.

do you think they rolled over and did exactly what the republicans wanted to do......no.

nothing your seeing today is not knew its happened before......it just you only see it from one side.
 
fine. Then just destroy the _______ nation's economy because you don't like the aca. When dems get the house back, let's put every gun control on money bills. Let's have a crisis every 6 weeks, which repub wall streeters hate. Please give us another teadowngrade as in 2011. Happy now?

really?..this is going to destroy the economy, i still remember when bush was president in his first term, and had been in office less than 2 months, and democrats stated bush destroyed the stock market, and it would never recover..........but i see it did.
 
Once Obama came in. And Bush gets no credit for the surplus in the 1st year--that's Clinton's.
really?..this is going to destroy the economy, i still remember when bush was president in his first term, and had been in office less than 2 months, and democrats stated bush destroyed the stock market, and it would never recover..........but i see it did.
 
You would prefer more expensive emergency room.
Yes, when the uninsured get treatment that raises the cost of healthcare. That isn't exactly news and it isn't theft.



That is what stupid government policy does, not the GOP.
 
Once Obama came in. And Bush gets no credit for the surplus in the 1st year--that's Clinton's.


i see you went your own way...... ..i stated clearly the democrats declared the stock market was dead, less than 2 months after bush took office......were they right.......no!

so this ridiculous, idea the government is going to crash and burn, is just hyped-up bloviating.
 

OMG the Government is going to partially shut down

RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!

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I wouldn't put it past Obama to cut off school lunches and blame it on "Government shut down". He's Castro playing the peasants like a fiddle.
 
Finally the Big Government is getting small. :lol:
 
All of the Obamabots can calm down

Your welfare checks are still on their way :lol:
 
Democrats should counter with a nationwide ban on ammunition sales.

The fact that no one responded to this speaks volumes.

I agree. Dems should counter by saying they want the most popular gun legislation or else they are going to shut the government down and default on the debt. I mean clearly it is ok to do this as long as you feel strongly about it, right?
 
The fact that no one responded to this speaks volumes.

I agree. Dems should counter by saying they want the most popular gun legislation or else they are going to shut the government down and default on the debt. I mean clearly it is ok to do this as long as you feel strongly about it, right?

becuase they would lose their shirts in 2014.

the public is not going to go for a ammo ban, and to even propose it....... would be death.
 
becuase they would lose their shirts in 2014.

the public is not going to go for a ammo ban, and to even propose it....... would be death.

You know damn well this belief of yours about strategy isn't the reason you would oppose this action by the democrats.
 
You know damn well this belief of yours about strategy isn't the reason you would oppose this action by the democrats.


to propose that kind of action would condemn them, they would do better to offer another handout...like free college, or immigration bill .....legalizing foreign aliens.
 
The level of irresponsible behavior from this President is appalling. I mean Jesus H. Oust this SOB and put that idiot Biden in already for pete's sake. He couldn't possibly do worse than this.. I mean the guy racks up 7 trillion in debt and then has the huevos to shut the government down because we won't spend more?

Good job House GOP, you're starting to make me proud I was a Republican...Keep this up and you may win me back. First time they've shown a spine since Obumnuts got elected...
 
to propose that kind of action would condemn them, they would do better to offer another handout...like free college, or immigration bill .....legalizing foreign aliens.

Just admit you would condemn them because you would suddenly see the action as bad form and that your stance is hypocritical. Confession is good for the soul.
 
The level of irresponsible behavior from this President is appalling. I mean Jesus H. Oust this SOB and put that idiot Biden in already for pete's sake. He couldn't possibly do worse than this.. I mean the guy racks up 7 trillion in debt and then has the huevos to shut the government down because we won't spend more?

Good job House GOP, you're starting to make me proud I was a Republican...Keep this up and you may win me back. First time they've shown a spine since Obumnuts got elected...

Satire?
 
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