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    Re: Government shutdown: House GOP to delay individual mandate

    Its been delayed for everyone BUT individuals. How is it rediculous to ask that Joe Blow down the street get the same consideration as Companies and government officials?
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    Re: Government shutdown: House GOP to delay individual mandate

    This is all propaganda while attempting to condition the population of North America to accept the loss of social programs and to accept the fact that the U.S. Capitalists want to walk away from every promise made to the working class since WWII.

    I believe that with this new health care scheme, Obama was able to raid the Medicare/Medicaid Trust fund which held 500 billion dollars.

    In addition; I believe that in a very short time, medical procedures which are presently carried out by doctors will be downloaded to nurses and nurse assistants.

    Obama Care was all about freeing up (raiding) the funds set aside in the Medicare/Medicaid envelope and to “redefine” medical practices/procedures.

    The only real winners are the corporations who will download all "legacy" health care costs to the taxpayer just like they have done with pension funds.

    The "shut down" story has totally buried the NSA scandal and any talk of the military industrial complex.

    What irritates me most is that only a bunch of fools would not of recognized the "Generational Storm" on the horizon as far back as 1980. (10 thousand people lining up for social security each and every day wanting to collect the 20 thousand bucks per year promised to them.) Yet, the "Leadership" of communities and country chose to ignore it.

    I believe that with every decision towards warfare, foreign aid and government advertising since 1980 were made without first acknowledging the Generational Storm heading our way. Every decision to appropriate monies was deliberately made without any care towards honoring the promises made to the Working Class since WWII, and worse .... the Ruling Class knew full well that they could get away with it so long as they hired enough clowns to beat the protesters at the gates.
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    Re: Government shutdown: House GOP to delay individual mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Where was this 61% on election night? If the people truly wanted to repeal the affordable care act, Romney would have won.
    that is such a rediculous claim.

    the country didnt vote solely obamacare vs anti obamacare,they voted on many issues(mostly other wedge issues)and considered the economy top priority,healthcare was fairly low priority in that election,if anything romney screwed himself by focusing too much against obamacare when people were more worried about other things.


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    Re: Government shutdown: House GOP to delay individual mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Its been delayed for everyone BUT individuals. How is it rediculous to ask that Joe Blow down the street get the same consideration as Companies and government officials?
    Yes, those Republicans are just standing there all doey-eyed with their hats in hand, please Mr. President can we delay this for the good of the people?

    And not, you know, threatening shutdown of our government if they don't get their way.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Government shutdown: House GOP to delay individual mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by beerftw View Post
    that is such a rediculous claim.

    the country didnt vote solely obamacare vs anti obamacare,they voted on many issues(mostly other wedge issues)and considered the economy top priority,healthcare was fairly low priority in that election,if anything romney screwed himself by focusing too much against obamacare when people were more worried about other things.


    correlation does not simply imply causation,
    And when the country votes Republicans into enough power to repeal Obamacare, I'm sure this will happen. Until then, the GOP is trying to usurp unilateral legislative power that the people did not grant them.

    I'm going to write my congresspeople and demand they throw in gun restrictions like universal background checks, a repeal of DOMA, and a 50% military budget cut in exchange for continued government operation. The people want it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Government shutdown: House GOP to delay individual mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    He could if the GOP had been anything remotely resembling reasonable about the ACA... ever. They latched their entire party onto the fantasy of repealing it with a Democrat in the white house. And failed.

    Now they're going to pay for it.
    I think it's funny how the GOP keeps voting to defund a program that penalizes the theft of insurance dollars. The GOP plan in no way slows down free ridership. It's hilarious to watch those who allegedly claim they are for personal responsibility vote to defund a program that nudges people towards that while trying to legislate substitutes that does basically nothing to encourage personal responsibility.
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    Re: Government shutdown: House GOP to delay individual mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    I think it's funny how the GOP keeps voting to defund a program that penalizes the theft of insurance dollars. The GOP plan in no way slows down free ridership. It's hilarious to watch those who allegedly claim they are for personal responsibility vote to defund a program that nudges people towards that while trying to legislate substitutes that does basically nothing to encourage personal responsibility.
    Except that no one is stealing insurance dollars. You also don't mandate personal responsibility.

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    Re: Government shutdown: House GOP to delay individual mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Yes, those Republicans are just standing there all doey-eyed with their hats in hand, please Mr. President can we delay this for the good of the people?

    And not, you know, threatening shutdown of our government if they don't get their way.
    Then maybe, perhaps, the Democrats should not have implemented Obamacare against the majority of the peoples wishes? Particularly without any of the Republicans input.
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    Re: Government shutdown: House GOP to delay individual mandate

    It is interesting that Obamacare is almost word for word from the same thing proposed by the Heritage Foundation, a Conservative think tank. It was bad then, and it is bad now. Insurance companies are going to get to rape the American people over this.

    But does that mean there shouldn't be health care for the American people? I am torn over this. I agree with Republicans that there should not be an individual mandate shoved down the throats of Americans, but on the other hand, if we tell people who are poor that they are going to die because they can't afford insurance, then we are no better than savages.

    Problem here is that the Democrats want to ram their own agenda down our throats, but guess what? Republicans want to ram their agenda down our throats too..... Which reminds me..... Savages..... Yes, that is what our congresscritters are. Savages. Sociopaths. Psychopaths.

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    Re: Government shutdown: House GOP to delay individual mandate

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    If Repubs ever get elected POTUS, Democrats should never forget what Repubs have done these last 5 years to Obama. Every "Repub trick" should be thrown back in their faces and then some. If Repubs get the Senate, do you really think they won't go 100% nuclear option?

    i guess you were not in politics in the time of Reagan.

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