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    Re: Krokodil: Deadly Flesh-Eating Drug Arrives in US.....

    I can't feel sorry for someone who would willingly take this drug while knowing it's effects. Dumb as a stump is all I can say.

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    Re: Krokodil: Deadly Flesh-Eating Drug Arrives in US.....

    Some pretty wild lookin' pictures from a story in 2011





    Krokodil: The drug that eats junkies
    A home-made heroin substitute is having a horrific effect on thousands of Russia's drug addicts
    By Shaun Walker
    June 22, 2011
    Krokodil: The flesh-eating drug that eats junkies - Europe - World - The Independent

    The Living Dead: Why Thousands of Russian Addicts Are Rotting to Death
    By Kristen Gwynne
    June 24, 2011
    The Living Dead: Why Thousands of Russian Addicts Are Rotting to Death | Alternet

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    Re: Krokodil: Deadly Flesh-Eating Drug Arrives in US.....

    Quote Originally Posted by calm View Post
    Some pretty wild lookin' pictures from a story in 2011





    Krokodil: The drug that eats junkies
    A home-made heroin substitute is having a horrific effect on thousands of Russia's drug addicts
    By Shaun Walker
    June 22, 2011
    Krokodil: The flesh-eating drug that eats junkies - Europe - World - The Independent

    The Living Dead: Why Thousands of Russian Addicts Are Rotting to Death
    By Kristen Gwynne
    June 24, 2011
    The Living Dead: Why Thousands of Russian Addicts Are Rotting to Death | Alternet
    OMG! That is nasty!

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    Re: Krokodil: Deadly Flesh-Eating Drug Arrives in US.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Mornin' SAM. To top it off Heroin is making a reemergence. Heroin deaths here are up. Plus the LE's have been harping on how many younger kids are using it. Which starts out as snorting and for some leads to the worse. Hence that influence, and the concern it garners here.
    Yup. I spent my teen years in a nice suburb around Minneapolis, and it's taken a couple of my old aquaintences. There was a huge smokable heroin outbreak here amongst young people, and that progressed into shooting up.

    So these are people with no degrees, no job prospects, many of whom have even had their parents give up on them, living in squalor now. They're perfectly primed to pick up something like krokodil.

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    Re: Krokodil: Deadly Flesh-Eating Drug Arrives in US.....

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    That article sucks, because it points a junkie right to how to make it. And that's where the problem will start. Junkies making it for themselves.

    Its not the first time I've seen enough clues in a news article to point me to Google.

    Instructions in the first search.
    Do you really think a junkie is going to reference this article to learn about the drug?

    #smh

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    Re: Krokodil: Deadly Flesh-Eating Drug Arrives in US.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Do you really think a junkie is going to reference this article to learn about the drug?

    #smh
    If the junkie happens to be a high school kid addicted to oxycontin, then yeah.
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    Re: Krokodil: Deadly Flesh-Eating Drug Arrives in US.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Sounds like a bit of hype to me. I had to look it up, because it sounded like an opiate derivative. Yep. It's an opiate. And people inject toxic stuff into themselves with opiates.

    But the scare quotes in the article remind me of Reefer Madness...

    This Heroin Alternative “Eats Flesh” – But How?

    have at it then, later give us a full report of its effects



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    Re: Krokodil: Deadly Flesh-Eating Drug Arrives in US.....

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    Yup. I spent my teen years in a nice suburb around Minneapolis, and it's taken a couple of my old aquaintences. There was a huge smokable heroin outbreak here amongst young people, and that progressed into shooting up.

    So these are people with no degrees, no job prospects, many of whom have even had their parents give up on them, living in squalor now. They're perfectly primed to pick up something like krokodil.
    I can agree a person in that position would be likely to pick up a powerful drug, the reality is this drug in russia became prevelent due to codeine containing cough syrups being readily available. The drug itself may not even be better than pure codeine as I have not been able to actually find many user experiences comparing the two, but it may just be that the yeild of extraction of the codeine from the cough medicine may be krokodil and therefor you don't have pure codeine ever available. It is not like how crack cocaine became more popular than a pure freebase. I do not think people will be altering their already illegal codeine to be in this form because the high does not seem to be any better from what I can gather, and the effects are so much worse. An alcoholic does not drink anti-freeze because they want a better high than alcohol, they do it because nothing else is available. I think that is why this became so bad in russia at the time. This was available, and nothing comparible was.

    This also goes along the lines of how dangerous it is to ban marihuana. People want to smoke marihuana and get that sort of high. It is mostly harmless unless you do something else. Because marijuana was illegal they came out with a number of synthetics which may actually include health problems. There is no studies on them to show how harmful they are. The synthetics got popularity because you did not have good old pot available legally. Some people risked the synthetics because it was available when their pot connection got busted, or because they simply did not want to risk getting busted for purchasing. However in this case the makings for krokodil are not available because the US market has banned codeine cough syrups so you would have to get some codeine to begin with, and if you had pure codeine I am not sure the extraction process would work the same anyway.

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    Re: Krokodil: Deadly Flesh-Eating Drug Arrives in US.....

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    If the junkie happens to be a high school kid addicted to oxycontin, then yeah.
    Yes, and no. There is the curiosity aspect of things. Experimentation may be something that would drive a person to try and synthesize this product even if they had alternatives. However, if they are already going out onm the internet to find this info they will also find the articles about it's danger. I have not found anything that says this has an amazing high, just an alternative high to unavailable products. Like someone might synthesize crack from cocaine because the high is different and supposedly better. This does not come with that information, and you would already have to have an illegal powerful substance like codeine to consider it. I am sure there are some stupid people who would do this, but they were completer self destructive morons to begin with and would probably die from sticking a ferret up their ass anyway.

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    Re: Krokodil: Deadly Flesh-Eating Drug Arrives in US.....

    Oh god, this ****. I read some articles and saw a video about this a year or two ago.
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