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    Re: Americans blame Obamacare already for higher costs

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Since the 1700's?
    Earlier than that. England had biased newspapers since printing started.
    How far do we want to go back?
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    Re: Americans blame Obamacare already for higher costs

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    you dont know crap about politics it isn't about who is right or wrong it isn't about what is true or not it is all about what the public believes and perceives
    That's why Republicans and Dems put so much effort into straight up lying to the American people.

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    Re: Americans blame Obamacare already for higher costs

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Earlier than that. England had biased newspapers since printing started.
    How far do we want to go back?
    We don't. Points is they've always been for profit, so complaining they're for profit isn't interesting.
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    Re: Americans blame Obamacare already for higher costs

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    We don't. Points is they've always been for profit, so complaining they're for profit isn't interesting.
    But that's what causes media bias. Look at the whole entertainment magazine industry. If every celebrity was being faithful and boring, nothing would sell (Matt Damon never gets any play in those magazines, he's downright boring in the context they are looking at). They need controversy and they need to play it up to sell. Same thing with political news.
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    Re: Americans blame Obamacare already for higher costs

    There are numerous things that could bring down healthcare costs. From tort reform to allowing a more free market approach across state lines. But because the left is beholding to the lawyer lobby and all the ambulance chasers, tort reform isn't going anywhere. Because the left is beholding to the anti capitalist crowd, the approach to a free market is out of the question with them also. But the biggest thing that could bring down healthcare costs is to get the federal government out of the way! But that doesn't seem like it is going to happen either because there seems to be too damn many idiots that look to the federal government to solve all their problems that they themselves created.

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    Re: Americans blame Obamacare already for higher costs

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Yep, I work for a global company and we just saw another major reorg with new announcements made on our health insurance ...
    If your employer did this to you, why are you blaming ACA? It was the capitalists and that's the problem. As long as we let capitalists control our access to health care, we will be subject to their greed.
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    Re: Americans blame Obamacare already for higher costs

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Steel View Post
    If your employer did this to you, why are you blaming ACA?
    It was the capitalists and that's the problem.
    Oy Vey!
    Wrong!
    The Abominable Care Act caused the employer to act in such a way. That is why you blame the ACA and not the employer.



    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Steel View Post
    As long as we let capitalists control our access to health care, we will be subject to their greed.
    Holy ****!
    Health care is a product of another's efforts. Do you really not understand that?
    It is an individuals own greed causing them to want the government to provide it instead of paying for it on their own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post

    How can you assertively claim 'clearly...this shift isn't happening' by using the suppositions 'if this movement' and 'there must be a counter movement' then qualify the assertion with 'Although I suppose'? Is this to be considered seriously?
    How can I claim that? It's called 'data analysis' and 'logic'.

    Ok. I guess I could qualify it as 'although, I suppose if you are an idiot, one could think more people are working under 25 hrs/wk.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    We don't. Points is they've always been for profit, so complaining they're for profit isn't interesting.
    Complaining for profit is the entire business plan of Fox News! Where have you been?
    Many Trump supporters have lots of problems, and those deplorables are bringing those problems to us. They’re racists. They’re misogynists. They’re islamophobic. They're xenophobes and homophobes. And some, I assume, are good people.

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    Re: Americans blame Obamacare already for higher costs

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    The Abominable Care Act caused the employer to act in such a way. That is why you blame the ACA and not the employer.
    I have no doubt that some are doing it because of ACA, but the trend has been this way even BEFORE ACA. I think many businesses are using ACA as a scapegoat to do what they have wanted to for a while. The ACA gives them an out to accomplish this.

    If it was JUST ACA, why has the trend been going to part time work BEFORE ACA was established?

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