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    Americans blame Obamacare already for higher costs

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    because thousand are already getting letters from their insurance companies either raising rates or dropping cover they are already experiencing layoffs and getting put on part time and it makes them wonder if all this bad is happening right befor the roll out it can only get worse
    Right. And if it is or isnt related to Obamacare, its irrelevant You guys are gonna blame Obamacare no matter what.
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    Re: Americans blame Obamacare already for higher costs

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Right. And if it is or isnt related to Obamacare, its irrelevant You guys are gonna blame Obamacare no matter what.
    You can't be friggin serious. Medium and large businesses are eliminating full time positions and cutting hours to under 30 a week and you think there is no connection?

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    Re: Americans blame Obamacare already for higher costs

    working 'under the table' its the newest hawtest growing employment sector in the nation
    as time goes on it will become the new American way

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    Americans blame Obamacare already for higher costs

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    You can't be friggin serious. Medium and large businesses are eliminating full time positions and cutting hours to under 30 a week and you think there is no connection?
    I can guarantee you dont really care if there is or isnt. You'll point to Obamacare.

    Businesses have been eliminating full time positions and cutting hours for decades. They also have been adding positions and increasing hours for decades. You'll focus on the former and blame Obamacare. Its pretty clear.

    You ignore stories like these:

    http://www.politico.com/story/2013/0...#ixzz2cXwPzarc

    And data like this, which shows theres not too much of a jump in people working under 30 hours a week ( and it affects 0.6% of the US workers)
    and the slight change isnt statistically significant, which means its equivalent to what would happen by chance.

    http://www.cepr.net/documents/public...er-2013-07.pdf


    But I AM fully convinced you will rail at data like this and insist that its wrong, because your predetermined position will make it so. Thats why I can tell you with confidence that you are going to hear lot of bad things about Obamacare. Some might be true, but not most...
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    Re: Americans blame Obamacare already for higher costs

    it really doesn't matter, if your premium skyrockets you just don't pay it
    if you are fined, you don't pay that
    if your hours are cut to 29 to keep your employer from having to cover you
    you find another part time job or go without

    you are the little guy
    there's nothing else you can do, right?

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    Re: Americans blame Obamacare already for higher costs

    People are forgetting that access matters too. If there are 50 million without health insurance, that's a colossal failure that needed rectifying. A huge chunk of them will now acquire insurance, some practically for free, whereas before even if they could afford it they were blocked for preexisting conditions or poor general health. Don't forget some of the outrages, even for those with insurance, that led to this.

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    Re: Americans blame Obamacare already for higher costs

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    you dont know crap about politics it isn't about who is right or wrong it isn't about what is true or not it is all about what the public believes and perceives
    So you admit the Low IQ voters on the right don't need facts, if they THINK it is so that is all that matters, all proof aside...

    If a company attempts to gouge you, you can switch plans with no penalty or being disallowed because of pre-existing conditions. If the ill-informed read the 'metal' plans in ACA they might abandon their current plans.

    There is plenty of time for the ACA to show it's effect before the next election. Though some maybe cynical and have CONvoluted recent history to fit their whine- the American people didn't vote facts but what they were duped into believing when Willard lost- I have greater faith in the masses.

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    Re: Americans blame Obamacare already for higher costs

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    and it just will get worse and America will remember who was the one who stood up for 21 hours fighting to keep this train wreck from happening. they will remember the ones who supported him the will remember the ones who did not they will remember the ones who called him names and they will remember the ones who voted to keep it funded
    I can see the 2014 campaign commercials already they are going to be brutal for the ones on the wrong side of Obama care debate
    And that would be ALOT of Republicans. Did you know that the exchanges will still be open even if the reckless fools in the House shut down the Govt.?
    There is no stopping progress, you'd think you guys would have learned that by now.

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    Re: Americans blame Obamacare already for higher costs

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    And that would be ALOT of Republicans. Did you know that the exchanges will still be open even if the reckless fools in the House shut down the Govt.?
    There is no stopping progress, you'd think you guys would have learned that by now.
    how many times do I need to say this THE GOVERNEMENT IS NOT GOING TO SHUT DOWN IT IS ALL ABOUT 2014 republicans know the are not going to get Obama care repealed not now. it was to show the public who was on what side on the inevitable train wreck and it will be used to beat the ones how supported the train wreck over the head with it

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    Re: Americans blame Obamacare already for higher costs

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    So you admit the Low IQ voters on the right don't need facts, if they THINK it is so that is all that matters, all proof aside...

    If a company attempts to gouge you, you can switch plans with no penalty or being disallowed because of pre-existing conditions. If the ill-informed read the 'metal' plans in ACA they might abandon their current plans.

    There is plenty of time for the ACA to show it's effect before the next election. Though some maybe cynical and have CONvoluted recent history to fit their whine- the American people didn't vote facts but what they were duped into believing when Willard lost- I have greater faith in the masses.
    not on the right but the low IQ voters in general

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