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    U.S. signs treaty to regulate global arms trading

    UNITED NATIONS (AP) — The United States, the world's largest arms dealer, has joined more than 90 other nations in signing a treaty that regulates global arms trading, but there is strong resistance in the Senate, which must ratify it.Secretary of State John Kerry, who signed the Arms Trade Treaty on Wednesday, said it was a "significant step" in keeping the world safe and preventing terrorists and others from obtaining conventional weapons.
    The Obama administration's move is seen as critical to the treaty's success. The U.S. was the 91st country to sign, but the treaty will not take effect until 50 nations have ratified it. Only four had ratified the treaty as of Wednesday.
    Many of the world's other top arms exporters have yet to sign and opposition in the Senate, backed by the powerful National Rifle Association, means U.S. ratification will be difficult.
    "This is about reducing the risks of international transfers of conventional arms that will be used to carry out the world's worst crimes," Kerry said.
    He said it would require other countries to put in place the same arms export restrictions that the United States already has in force.
    "This is about keeping Americans safe and keeping America strong, and this is about promoting international peace and global security," he said.
    Addressing U.S. critics of the treaty, the former senator said fears that it would undermine Americans' constitutional right to keep and bear arms are not grounded in reality.
    For one, the treaty does not regulate domestic weapons sales.


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    Common sense treaty. This is common sense all the lies that have circulated around this to try to stop this makes no sense. We need to ratify this this is common sense for a great cause.


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    Incoming rant about our second amendment right to bear sell arms to protect ourselves warlords.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Common sense treaty. This is common sense all the lies that have circulated around this to try to stop this makes no sense. We need to ratify this this is common sense for a great cause. [/FONT][/COLOR]
    Comman sense x3?

    From the republican side:

    Sen. Bob Corker, R-Tenn., in a letter to President Obama, urged his administration not to take any action to implement the treaty without the consent of the Senate. He claimed the treaty raises "fundamental issues" concerning "individual rights protected by the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution."

    The National Rifle Association blasted the plan, claiming it would impose an "invasive registration scheme" by requiring importing countries to give exporting countries information on "end users."...

    The treaty would require countries that ratify it to establish national regulations to control the transfer of conventional arms and components and to regulate arms brokers, but it will not explicitly control the domestic use of weapons in any country...

    Over the summer, 130 members of Congress signed a letter to President Obama and Kerry urging them to reject the measure for this and other reasons...

    The treaty also prohibits the export of conventional arms if they could be used in attacks on civilians or civilian buildings such as schools and hospitals.

    In addition, the treaty requires countries to take measures to prevent the diversion of conventional weapons to the illicit market. This is among the provisions that gun-rights supporters in Congress are concerned about.
    Kerry signs UN arms treaty, senators threaten to block it | Fox News

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    Re: U.S. signs treaty to regulate global arms trading

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    There is no gun registry: PolitiFact Texas | U.N. treaty is about weapons systems moving between countries
    "Nations are required to maintain a "national control system, including a national control list," report exports and imports to the U.N. each year and regulate brokering with measures that "may include requiring brokers to register," but the treaty doesn’t specify how countries must carry out these directions.

    Daniel Prins, chief of the Conventional Arms branch of the U.N. Office for Disarmament Affairs, told us by phone that the national control list will be "an enumeration of the types of weapons you will report," starting with the categories in the treaty (warships, combat aircraft, etc.).

    Then, each year, nations will report imports and exports in the categories on their lists, Prins said: "35 tanks to Germany," for example."

    Basically says you have to report on what guns you imported and exported


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    The US already meets the requirements for this treaty. It's basically other nations agreeing to our standard practices.
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    Re: U.S. signs treaty to regulate global arms trading

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    There is no gun registry: PolitiFact Texas | U.N. treaty is about weapons systems moving between countries
    "Nations are required to maintain a "national control system, including a national control list," report exports and imports to the U.N. each year and regulate brokering with measures that "may include requiring brokers to register," but the treaty doesn’t specify how countries must carry out these directions.
    It appears to require some kind of registry of weapons imported/exported.

    Daniel Prins, chief of the Conventional Arms branch of the U.N. Office for Disarmament Affairs, told us by phone that the national control list will be "an enumeration of the types of weapons you will report," starting with the categories in the treaty (warships, combat aircraft, etc.).
    Small arms, etc.

    Basically says you have to report on what guns you imported and exported
    Probably more than macro data. How can anyone support the macro data without a registry (a record with source data) of all import/export transactions. Does the treaty exclude small business transactions?

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    Re: U.S. signs treaty to regulate global arms trading

    From my Faux News source above:

    The treaty also prohibits the export of conventional arms if they could be used in attacks on civilians or civilian buildings such as schools and hospitals.
    What does that mean? That's all weapons, it cannot actually be in the treaty.

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    I wonder how many right-wingers having a kneejerk reaction to this treaty have actually read the damned thing.
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    Re: U.S. signs treaty to regulate global arms trading

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    It appears to require some kind of registry of weapons imported/exported.
    Not a national registry of who owns guns in America tho.


    Small arms, etc.
    Yes ok.

    Probably more than macro data. How can anyone support the macro data without a registry (a record with source data) of all import/export transactions. Does the treaty exclude small business transactions?
    If your making a registry of guns going in and out of the country that does not hamper down freedom at all. Its simply a registry of how many weapons come in and out of your country not who purchased them etc


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