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    Re: U.S. signs treaty to regulate global arms trading

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well, except that in July of 2012 the ILA had put out this. Basic Wiki even had it.

    Anti-gun treaty proponents continue to mislead the public, claiming the treaty would have no impact on American gun owners. That's a bald-faced lie. For example, the most recent draft treaty includes export/import controls that would require officials in an importing country to collect information on the 'end user' of a firearm, keep the information for 20 years, and provide the information to the country from which the gun was exported. In other words, if you bought a Beretta shotgun, you would be an 'end user' and the U.S. government would have to keep a record of you and notify the Italian government about your purchase. That is gun registration. If the U.S. refuses to implement this data collection on law-abiding American gun owners, other nations might be required to ban the export of firearms to the U.S.....snip~

    Course there are those measures for the Treaty.

    It must be workable and enforceable. It must:

    provide guidelines for the treaty's full, clear implementation;
    ensure transparency—including full annual reports of national arms transfers;
    have an effective mechanism to monitor compliance;
    ensure accountability—with provisions for adjudication, dispute settlement and sanctions;
    include a comprehensive framework for international cooperation and assistance.

    Then the NGO's decided to add a little more into the mix.

    NGOs are also advocating that the Arms Trade Treaty must reinforce existing responsibilities to assist survivors of armed violence, as well as identify new avenues to address suffering and trauma.....snip~

    Arms Trade Treaty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    I notice how this kinda shut the Left wing "please daddy please save us we're scared daddy we're scared" crowd pretty much up...Good show..

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    Re: U.S. signs treaty to regulate global arms trading

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well, except that in July of 2012 the ILA had put out this. Basic Wiki even had it.
    You got the text from the final draft that says this?
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    Re: U.S. signs treaty to regulate global arms trading

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    You got the text from the final draft that says this?
    The ILA did since they were the Attorneys.....all of it is in the formatting of ATT. These are some of the links some lead to PDFS.

    On 2 April 2013, the General Assembly adopted the landmark Arms Trade Treaty (ATT), regulating the international trade in conventional arms, from small arms to battle tanks, combat aircraft and warships. The treaty will foster peace and security by putting a stop to destabilizing arms flows to conflict regions. It will prevent human rights abusers and violators of the law of war from being supplied with arms. And it will help keep warlords, pirates, and gangs from acquiring these deadly tools.

    General Assembly Resolutions
    • The Arms Trade Treaty (2013) — A/RES/67/234 B
    • The Arms Trade Treaty (2012) — A/RES/67/234 A
    • The Arms Trade Treaty (2011) — A/C.1/66/L.50
    • The Arms Trade Treaty (2009) — A/RES/64/48
    • Towards an Arms Trade Treaty (2008) — A/RES/63/240
    • Towards an Arms Trade Treaty (2006) — A/RES/61/89


    Article 16.3 of the ATT indicates that a voluntary trust fund is to be established by States Parties for that purpose.

    In anticipation, the United Nations, in close cooperation with a growing number of States, has launched a trust facility to kick-start advocacy, universalisation and implementation of the ATT. Learn more about the United Nations Trust Facility Supporting Cooperation on Arms Regulation (UNSCAR).

    The Arms Trade Treaty - UN Office for Disarmament Affairs

    Since the passage only 7 have ratified.

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    Re: U.S. signs treaty to regulate global arms trading

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    The ILA did since they were the Attorneys.....all of it is in the formatting of ATT.
    Uh, that's not really what you're claiming it is.

    Where is the text of the document that says the signing states have to create a registry to track firearms down to end users and share that data with other signatory nations?
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    Re: U.S. signs treaty to regulate global arms trading

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Uh, that's not really what you're claiming it is.

    Where is the text of the document that says the signing states have to create a registry to track firearms down to end users and share that data with other signatory nations?
    Yes it was.....And I did say the attorneys, that would be the ILA. I gave you the links to the site.....I wasn't going to go thru their PDF files to pull it out. But even Basic Wiki has it up.


    "Anti-gun treaty proponents continue to mislead the public, claiming the treaty would have no impact on American gun owners. That's a bald-faced lie. For example, the most recent draft treaty includes export/import controls that would require officials in an importing country to collect information on the 'end user' of a firearm, keep the information for 20 years, and provide the information to the country from which the gun was exported. In other words, if you bought a Beretta shotgun, you would be an 'end user' and the U.S. government would have to keep a record of you and notify the Italian government about your purchase. That is gun registration. If the U.S. refuses to implement this data collection on law-abiding American gun owners, other nations might be required to ban the export of firearms to the U.S.....snip~

    Arms Trade Treaty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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