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    Re: Congressmen: SWAT told to 'stand down' at Navy yard

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    Obama is simply not responsible for everything bad that ever happens. Heck, in this case, we don't even know if the decision was actually bad. There simply isn't enough to go off of to know that.
    we don't even know that there was a stand down order given
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    Re: Congressmen: SWAT told to 'stand down' at Navy yard

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    we don't even know that there was a stand down order given
    Pretty much. I have no issue with an investigation being done by whoever normally does such investigations, but it is way too early to start placing blame without even some of the really basic facts, if a standdown order was really given, and if so, who initiated it, why it was given, and whether it was appropriate.
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    Re: Congressmen: SWAT told to 'stand down' at Navy yard

    So, my driveway is a traditional hiding spot for motorcycle cops. They lurk there because I live on an under-posted steet (25 MPH) which should easily be 30. So it';s a target rich environment for toicket revenues. So, naturally, I just went outside and pose this question to the officer. Here is what his opinion was...

    The FIRST reason SWAT officers wear helmets is because they serve exactly one function. Killing.

    They are not appropriate in all situations, particularly if the bad guy is hard to identify from the innocents. There are undercover Hostage Rescue teams for that. So, it may have been a good idea not to use SWAT and use other types of officers.

    It's just the opinion of one motorcycle cop but I also did some Googling and it sounds correct.

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    Re: Congressmen: SWAT told to 'stand down' at Navy yard

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Obama is simply not responsible for everything bad that ever happens. Heck, in this case, we don't even know if the decision was actually bad. There simply isn't enough to go off of to know that.
    Obama is NEVER responsible for anything negative.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Congressmen: SWAT told to 'stand down' at Navy yard

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Pretty much. I have no issue with an investigation being done by whoever normally does such investigations, but it is way too early to start placing blame without even some of the really basic facts, if a standdown order was really given, and if so, who initiated it, why it was given, and whether it was appropriate.
    Obviously it wasn't appropriate, since the shooter was still active.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Congressmen: SWAT told to 'stand down' at Navy yard

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Obama is simply not responsible for everything bad that ever happens. Heck, in this case, we don't even know if the decision was actually bad. There simply isn't enough to go off of to know that.

    That doesn't matter, a stand down order was given and obviously that came right from the top! Nothing will stop Obama from releasing jihad upon America!

    /sarcasm off


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    Re: Congressmen: SWAT told to 'stand down' at Navy yard

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Obviously it wasn't appropriate, since the shooter was still active.
    We don't know what was appropriate or not. We simply do not have all the information, such as was there another team there, was there simply some other group there, inside that could of taken a better action than a SWAT team. We don't have all the information so we don't know if the order, if given, was appropriate.
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    Re: Congressmen: SWAT told to 'stand down' at Navy yard

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Obama is NEVER responsible for anything negative.
    Oh Obama is responsible for a lot of crap, but this simply isn't likely at all to be one of those things.
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    Re: Congressmen: SWAT told to 'stand down' at Navy yard

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    We don't know what was appropriate or not. We simply do not have all the information, such as was there another team there, was there simply some other group there, inside that could of taken a better action than a SWAT team. We don't have all the information so we don't know if the order, if given, was appropriate.
    Do you inow what stand down means?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Congressmen: SWAT told to 'stand down' at Navy yard

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Do you inow what stand down means?
    Do you know what having all the information to make an intelligent decision means.
    I confess, I did it, I let the dogs out.

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