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    Re: Federal workers should enroll in Obamacare: Rand Paul

    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinWillers View Post
    The very fact that some are allowed to be exempt from the law means the law itself is illegitimate. I agree - this piece of crap needs to go. It's absolutely infuriating the arrogance this administration is displaying - and their utter disrespect for the American people and their laws.
    I agree: we need single payer universal health care for everybody like other civilized nations have.

    Wait. . . you're against that.

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    Re: Federal workers should enroll in Obamacare: Rand Paul

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Me, too, assuming a 29 hour work week. But I think your figures are assuming a 52-week year, which does not exist in DC, so you may have some recalculating to do.
    Indeed I do. I need to get this hourly rate up there near a lawyer's rate. Let's assume that we have franking privileges, and all the rest of that stuff we don't pay taxes on. Let's also assume that we get all the government holidays and out of session periods congress enjoys, plus Government Shutdown Day on October 1st. Let's also assume that we are partially disabled and can only work when we feel really, really good and the doctor says it's okay to work until we don't feel really, really good. We're getting free transportation back and forth anyway. We won't count the lobbyist money we keep in the refrigerator. I hope we're getting into the $600.00/ hr range now. I'd be disappointed to learn I was making any less. Plus I left out Ramadan.

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    Re: Federal workers should enroll in Obamacare: Rand Paul

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    As I said, according to the income guidelines in the ACA, these employees are not eligible for a subsidy at all. It doesn't matter what existed in their old plan. I can make any arrangement I want with a private employer, but Congress agreed to the same coverage as everybody else would receive under the ACA, and as a public employee under the auspicies of the legislation, they are not entitled to a subsidy, period. Yes, there are some staffers for whom a subsidy might apply.
    They aren't entitled for the premium subsidies that the ACA creates. Nowhere does the law state "nobody can receive any other subsidies for anything else." Farmers still get corn subsidies, dude, even if they make a million dollars a year.

    It is the same coverage as everybody else. Any employer can choose to subsidies their employees health plans in this manner.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Federal workers should enroll in Obamacare: Rand Paul

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    I agree: we need single payer universal health care for everybody like other civilized nations have.

    Wait. . . you're against that.
    You mean, like Libya?

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    Re: Federal workers should enroll in Obamacare: Rand Paul

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    They aren't entitled for the premium subsidies that the ACA creates. Nowhere does the law state "nobody can receive any other subsidies for anything else."

    It is the same coverage as everybody else. Any employer can choose to subsidies their employees health plans in this manner.
    Any private employer can. Look Deuce, there are some ways they can get around what was legislated, but the intent of the law is that they don't. It wasn't my idea. I didn't write it. They did. They apparently didn't know what they were writing. Imagine that.

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    Re: Federal workers should enroll in Obamacare: Rand Paul

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    You mean, like Libya?
    They have running water in Libya. Are you against that now?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Federal workers should enroll in Obamacare: Rand Paul

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Any private employer can. Look Deuce, there are some ways they can get around what was legislated, but the intent of the law is that they don't. It wasn't my idea. I didn't write it. They did. They apparently didn't know what they were writing. Imagine that.
    Actually, yes, the idea that the government isn't allowed to contribute to health care plans of its employees was your idea, because you made it up. No part of the ACA says the government is not allowed to contribute to employee health premiums.

    Prove me wrong by quoting the exact text of the ACA that would prevent this.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Federal workers should enroll in Obamacare: Rand Paul

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    They have running water in Libya. Are you against that now?
    They do? Which came first - universal health care or plumbing?

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    Re: Federal workers should enroll in Obamacare: Rand Paul

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    They do? Which came first - universal health care or plumbing?
    Your apparent point was "Libya has universal health care, Libya is bad, therefore universal health care is bad." Feel free to clarify if that's not the point you were trying to make. You didn't leave much to go on.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Federal workers should enroll in Obamacare: Rand Paul

    Originally Posted by EdwinWillers
    The very fact that some are allowed to be exempt from the law means the law itself is illegitimate. I agree - this piece of crap needs to go. It's absolutely infuriating the arrogance this administration is displaying - and their utter disrespect for the American people and their laws.
    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    I agree: we need single payer universal health care for everybody like other civilized nations have.

    Wait. . . you're against that.
    Yes I am - but for a slightly (albeit related) different reason, because it's not Constitutional.
    Who chimes "No Absolutes!" chimes absolutely.

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