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    Dutch king declares end of the welfare state

    Dutch king declares end of the welfare state | euronews, world news

    he King of the Netherlands has informed his country that their welfare state is finished.

    King Willem-Alexander, alongside his wife, Queen Maxima, told the Dutch people that they must create their own social and financial safety nets, and that looking to the state for help was a thing of the 20th century.
    The Dutch economy is expected to have shrunk by more than one percent in 2013, and is worsening while recoveries are underway in Britain, Germany and France
    So the dutch will start dropping some of the social nets that are there for people. I think they realized the impossiiblity of their situation and the continuation of social security and other such programs for the future. We need a new paradigm to activate in for such things and I think the dutch are thinking towards the future.

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    Dutch king declares end of the welfare state

    A country known for each person paying their own way? Shocking.
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    Re: Dutch king declares end of the welfare state

    They may be the last ones standing, when the rest of us get crushed by social debt.
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    The Dutch have been overwhelmed with illegal immigration, just as in the United States. Dutch Immigration has been from Eastern Europe, ours from Mexico, South America, Cuba and other Hispanic areas as well as now from all parts of Asia.

    Apparently the Dutch have decided their culture is worth saving, while the American Liberals are giddy to see the unique American culture destroyed.
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    Re: Dutch king declares end of the welfare state

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    A country known for each person paying their own way? Shocking.
    Well they have been hit hard by the crisis. The Netherlands are known for flowers and roses... not economic stability. Did you know that the first "global" financial bubble was because of the dutch (because of roses, it was a roses-bubble and a housing bubble later on)? Also, they were responsible for some of the first financial crises. Financial crisis isn't a modern invention, there were always such things in the world. The reason we know of the one from 1929 and this one as global financial crises is because globalization and the USA is the nexus of the world... before, even though Europe was the nexus of the world, as the USA was now, it was many countries. So if Spain had problems, it wouldn't cause a global economic collapse, just in Spain and the nations/territories that were depended heavily on them. Other european countries were fine and dandy.

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    They may be the last ones standing, when the rest of us get crushed by social debt.
    They are doing very well debt-wise. Not even 80% in debt comparison to their GDP. Then again, they are still doing deficit spending and aren't quite AAA rating country. Their debt costs more.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    The Dutch have been overwhelmed with illegal immigration, just as in the United States.
    That is true. In 2011, according to the census, nearly 5-6% of the population was islamic and people weren't happy because they felt that the experience of immigration from the arabic regions hasn't improved their country one bit.

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    Re: Dutch king declares end of the welfare state

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    The Dutch have been overwhelmed with illegal immigration, just as in the United States. Dutch Immigration has been from Eastern Europe, ours from Mexico, South America, Cuba and other Hispanic areas as well as now from all parts of Asia.

    Apparently the Dutch have decided their culture is worth saving, while the American Liberals are giddy to see the unique American culture destroyed.
    I thought our culture was one of individual freedom and expression, where I'm free to associate with whomever I want to to express myself in whatever ways I wish to. But God damn if I choose to speak Spanish, choose to associate with other Spanish speakers, choose to celebrate Mexican holidays, celebrate Mexican traditions and culture. That's not allowed you aren't a real American for making the same choices I did.

    Hey man as long as you aren't preaching violence or other obvious areas that shouldn't be tolerated than you're free to do whatever the hell you want, that's American culture, maybe its not what you'd choose to do but the hell kind of man thinks he has the right to tell someone else how to live.

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    Re: Dutch king declares end of the welfare state

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    Well they have been hit hard by the crisis. The Netherlands are known for flowers and roses... not economic stability. Did you know that the first "global" financial bubble was because of the dutch (because of roses, it was a roses-bubble and a housing bubble later on)? Also, they were responsible for some of the first financial crises. Financial crisis isn't a modern invention, there were always such things in the world. The reason we know of the one from 1929 and this one as global financial crises is because globalization and the USA is the nexus of the world... before, even though Europe was the nexus of the world, as the USA was now, it was many countries. So if Spain had problems, it wouldn't cause a global economic collapse, just in Spain and the nations/territories that were depended heavily on them. Other european countries were fine and dandy.

    They are doing very well debt-wise. Not even 80% in debt comparison to their GDP. Then again, they are still doing deficit spending and aren't quite AAA rating country. Their debt costs more.



    That is true. In 2011, according to the census, nearly 5-6% of the population was islamic and people weren't happy because they felt that the experience of immigration from the arabic regions hasn't improved their country one bit.

    The issue facing the Netherlands are happening because of the EU. The EU is horrible for keeping undesirable immigrants out because once your in the EU you can go anywhere.

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    Re: Dutch king declares end of the welfare state

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    I thought our culture was one of individual freedom and expression, where I'm free to associate with whomever I want to to express myself in whatever ways I wish to. But God damn if I choose to speak Spanish, choose to associate with other Spanish speakers, choose to celebrate Mexican holidays, celebrate Mexican traditions and culture. That's not allowed you aren't a real American for making the same choices I did.

    Hey man as long as you aren't preaching violence or other obvious areas that shouldn't be tolerated than you're free to do whatever the hell you want, that's American culture, maybe its not what you'd choose to do but the hell kind of man thinks he has the right to tell someone else how to live.
    Understand that the issue in this thread is actually not your friends, but rather host country affordability of the seemingly bottomless immigrant dependency class and how the Dutch are attempting to solve that culture and economy destroying problem.
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    Re: Dutch king declares end of the welfare state

    One way ticket to Amsterdam, please.

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    Re: Dutch king declares end of the welfare state

    I like the article it points out they spend 100 million dollars on the royalty, he seems content with the money being given to him.

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