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    Re: Dutch king declares end of the welfare state

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    I thought our culture was one of individual freedom and expression, where I'm free to associate with whomever I want to to express myself in whatever ways I wish to. But God damn if I choose to speak Spanish, choose to associate with other Spanish speakers, choose to celebrate Mexican holidays, celebrate Mexican traditions and culture. That's not allowed you aren't a real American for making the same choices I did.

    Hey man as long as you aren't preaching violence or other obvious areas that shouldn't be tolerated than you're free to do whatever the hell you want, that's American culture, maybe its not what you'd choose to do but the hell kind of man thinks he has the right to tell someone else how to live.
    there are certain uniformaties that make a state functional and helps secure it's long term health and unity. One of the big ones is a shared language and identity. And while that identity can certainly include a cultural melting pot, at some point you need to perpetuate points of unity and shared interest. otherwise it simply exists on paper and becomes superfluous

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    Re: Dutch king declares end of the welfare state

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    Holland is going to fall on it's ass in the next few years.
    It's the Netherlands and no, we will not fall on our ass.
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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    Re: Dutch king declares end of the welfare state

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    It's the Netherlands and no, we will not fall on our ass.
    Holland is going to be in the same boat as Greece very shortly.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Dutch king declares end of the welfare state

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Holland is going to be in the same boat as Greece very shortly.
    1. it is and remains the Netherlands, I do not call the United States Florida, now do I?

    2. we are nothing like Greece. Unlike them we do not have a bad work force issue who make a lot but do not do a lot. We do not have tons of government workers like Greece had. Unemployment in Greece is over 27% and in the Netherlands it is 8.7%.
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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    Re: Dutch king declares end of the welfare state

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    1. it is and remains the Netherlands, I do not call the United States Florida, now do I?

    2. we are nothing like Greece. Unlike them we do not have a bad work force issue who make a lot but do not do a lot. We do not have tons of government workers like Greece had. Unemployment in Greece is over 27% and in the Netherlands it is 8.7%.
    4,000+ Dutch offed themselves through euthanasia last year. Your workforce is dwindling. Between that and your welfare state, that is high on naracotics, I think you'll be in worse shape than Greece is just a few years.
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    Re: Dutch king declares end of the welfare state

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    4,000+ Dutch offed themselves through euthanasia last year. Your workforce is dwindling. Between that and your welfare state, that is high on naracotics, I think you'll be in worse shape than Greece is just a few years.
    There are close to 17,000,000 people in the Netherlands. I think the country can probably endure the loss of those few who choose the route of Euthanasia at the end of their life. Moreover do you have statistics indicating that the Dutch by and large are 'high on narcotics'? From what I've found their rate of usage is much lower than the United States: EMCDDA | Situation summary for the Netherlands

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    Re: Dutch king declares end of the welfare state

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    There are close to 17,000,000 people in the Netherlands. I think the country can probably endure the loss of those few who choose the route of Euthanasia at the end of their life. Moreover do you have statistics indicating that the Dutch by and large are 'high on narcotics'? From what I've found their rate of usage is much lower than the United States: EMCDDA | Situation summary for the Netherlands
    Unless they're losing the best and brightest.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Dutch king declares end of the welfare state

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    4,000+ Dutch offed themselves through euthanasia last year. Your workforce is dwindling. Between that and your welfare state, that is high on naracotics, I think you'll be in worse shape than Greece is just a few years.
    Do you not want to die with dignity if you suffer form a terminal-illness? What would that have to do with anything, healthy working age people are not being euthanized. The workforce is dwindling in every developed country which is why immigration is needed. Legal marijuana is Amsterdam has nothing to do with the financial problems of the Netherlands it actually helps it, marijuana is a multi-billion dollar industry.

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    Re: Dutch king declares end of the welfare state

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    Do you not want to die with dignity if you suffer form a terminal-illness? What would that have to do with anything, healthy working age people are not being euthanized. The workforce is dwindling in every developed country which is why immigration is needed. Legal marijuana is Amsterdam has nothing to do with the financial problems of the Netherlands it actually helps it, marijuana is a multi-billion dollar industry.
    What the hell does that have to do with anything I said?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Dutch king declares end of the welfare state

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Unless they're losing the best and brightest.
    If someone is applying for medical euthanasia I think we can safely assume that they are most likely incapacitated and/or near death. I'm also not sure how you could back up the assertion that they are losing their 'best and brightest'.

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