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    Re: Dutch king declares end of the welfare state

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Monarchs who don't know their place need slapping down. The King of the Netherlands needs to be reminded that he's the ceremonial Head of State and has no role to play in the political direction of the country. The undermining of the separation of powers is a dangerous game to play. If he continues, the Dutch would be well advised to kick them out and become a republic. That's something that could be on the cards here if the monarchy continues to take the piss out of the Spanish people who are suffering while they continue to embezzle charity funds and take million-Euro holidays shooting endangered species.
    Do not insult my King, please. He is mostly ceremonial and the speech he made was totally and entirely written by the Dutch government.

    So do not say silly things like "undermining the separation of powers" in regard to my King.

    The Dutch monarch are in nothing like the Spanish ones. From what I read and hear about the Spanish monarchy, you are quite rightly angry at them, but do not suppose that the same goes for the Dutch monarchy.
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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    Re: Dutch king declares end of the welfare state

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    The American family is now a subject of ridicule. See post #23 for confirmation. My family still exists and functions in the manner you describe, and so do many, many others. The effort to displace the family with government continues along with the revisionism required to deny that anything better ever existed.
    Good morning, humbolt.

    : And I can't help but notice that Michelle's mother lives with her daughter and grandchildren in the White House. I wonder why that is? Maybe she thinks family is important?

    IMO, one's family will always be one's family, for better or for worse, and it's personal, and I like it that way--- while government administrations come and go, and you're just a number to them, which is totally impersonal. I don't want government officials, who don't know me, telling me how important a family should be! I already know! And family doesn't usually lie to you, either! If anything, they tend to be brutally honest!

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    Re: Dutch king declares end of the welfare state

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Do not insult my King, please. He is mostly ceremonial and the speech he made was totally and entirely written by the Dutch government.

    So do not say silly things like "undermining the separation of powers" in regard to my King.

    The Dutch monarch are in nothing like the Spanish ones. From what I read and hear about the Spanish monarchy, you are quite rightly angry at them, but do not suppose that the same goes for the Dutch monarchy.
    Then its even more hypocrticial to send a tax payer funded celebrity out to tell the people to get to work. They should set an example by first removing the monarchs safety net.

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    Re: Dutch king declares end of the welfare state

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Good morning, humbolt.

    : And I can't help but notice that Michelle's mother lives with her daughter and grandchildren in the White House. I wonder why that is? Maybe she thinks family is important?

    IMO, one's family will always be one's family, for better or for worse, and it's personal, and I like it that way--- while government administrations come and go, and you're just a number to them, which is totally impersonal. I don't want government officials, who don't know me, telling me how important a family should be! I already know! And family doesn't usually lie to you, either! If anything, they tend to be brutally honest!
    I'm with you on that. Hillary's village will never be a satisfactory substitute for family. What we are witnessing is a decades long attack on the family undermining it at every turn, and then those doing the dirty work standing up and crying that the family doesn't work. It's a nasty business done by nasty-assed people intent on power at any expense as long as it's not theirs. So a monarch stands up and tells his public that the government can't provide everything, and the knee jerk reaction from the left is that it's the monarchy that's corrupt and illegitimate. Nice. And typical.

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    Re: Dutch king declares end of the welfare state

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    Dutch king declares end of the welfare state | euronews, world news




    So the dutch will start dropping some of the social nets that are there for people. I think they realized the impossiiblity of their situation and the continuation of social security and other such programs for the future. We need a new paradigm to activate in for such things and I think the dutch are thinking towards the future.
    Does the King of the Netherlands have any actual power, or is this like Queen Elizabeth declaring war?


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    Re: Dutch king declares end of the welfare state

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Does the King of the Netherlands have any actual power, or is this like Queen Elizabeth declaring war?
    he doesn't have much power. no european monarchs have much power really. they're all more or less like the queen of england.

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    Re: Dutch king declares end of the welfare state

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Do not insult my King, please. He is mostly ceremonial and the speech he made was totally and entirely written by the Dutch government.

    So do not say silly things like "undermining the separation of powers" in regard to my King.

    The Dutch monarch are in nothing like the Spanish ones. From what I read and hear about the Spanish monarchy, you are quite rightly angry at them, but do not suppose that the same goes for the Dutch monarchy.
    I made no insult. If that was the government's opening of parliament speech, so be it. For some reason I couldn't open the article in the OP. The UK Parliament has The Queen's Speech, an expression of the plans of the government, read by the monarch. It is political, but does not represent any political opinions of the Queen. If that's the same as your king's speech, then I can see there's no interfering going on.

    Occasionally, in the UK, Spain (and perhaps the NL?) members of royalty forget themselves and make political statements that they have no business making. Prince Charles and Prince Philip have been known to do this and are often put in their place by elected officials. That is what should happen. Royals should remain outside of politics, they really have no role to play in day-to-day government.

    The fact that you took my very mild comments as insults, suggests you might be a little blinded by your love of royalty. That happens here in Spain too, when anything other than sycophancy is seen by some royalists as insults to the monarch, and the judiciary often seems happy to trample on free speech to 'protect the dignity' of the titular figurehead at the 'top' of society. If you see my comments as insults, too bad; you need to get some perspective.
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    Re: Dutch king declares end of the welfare state

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    I like the article it points out they spend 100 million dollars on the royalty, he seems content with the money being given to him.
    We spend a hell of a lot more on OUR royalty. And they're are not that content.

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    Re: Dutch king declares end of the welfare state

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Do not insult my King, please. He is mostly ceremonial and the speech he made was totally and entirely written by the Dutch government.

    So do not say silly things like "undermining the separation of powers" in regard to my King.

    The Dutch monarch are in nothing like the Spanish ones. From what I read and hear about the Spanish monarchy, you are quite rightly angry at them, but do not suppose that the same goes for the Dutch monarchy.
    Good morning, Peter King.

    Undermine your King? Absolutely Not! The majority of people in this Country applaud him for his brave stance, no matter who wrote the speech!

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    Re: Dutch king declares end of the welfare state

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Then its even more hypocrticial to send a tax payer funded celebrity out to tell the people to get to work. They should set an example by first removing the monarchs safety net.
    He is not a tax payer funded celebrity, he is our head of state, the figure head of our nation. And he is not out to tell people to get to work, he is doing his job by telling the people what the plans for the next parliamentary year is.

    And he does not have a safety net, he has a job/function and is paid accordingly.
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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