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    Re: Dems keep it classy

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    If it were limited to an overemotional cry-fest limited to the threat of taking them away you might have a point, but try to do so much as limit the availability of 100round clips and they wet themselves. And not in a good way.
    Here's how I view it - if you murder someone with an illegal gun, you should go to jail for the rest of your life. If you murder someone with a legal gun, you should go to jail for the rest of your life.

    If you murder someone with a fully automatic street-sweeper, you should go to jail for the rest of your life. If you murder someone with a deer rifle, you should go to jail for the rest of your life.

    Bottom line - punish the crime, not the tool. The only difference between killing someone in cold blood by a gun and by your bare hands is opportunity. The crime is exactly the same otherwise.

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    Re: Dems keep it classy

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Here's how I view it - if you murder someone with an illegal gun, you should go to jail for the rest of your life. If you murder someone with a legal gun, you should go to jail for the rest of your life.

    If you murder someone with a fully automatic street-sweeper, you should go to jail for the rest of your life. If you murder someone with a deer rifle, you should go to jail for the rest of your life.

    Bottom line - punish the crime, not the tool. The only difference between killing someone in cold blood by a gun and by your bare hands is opportunity. The crime is exactly the same otherwise.
    I hear you and don't disagree with the fact that regardless of how you do it the victim is still dead and dead is the same no matter how you got there.

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    1)it is much easier to kill someone with a gun: victim has less of a chance of getting away, more likely to happen in the heat of the moment because a gun was accessible, more likely to end up dead (wound more lethal) ...

    2)you can kill them from a distance: it detaches you from the reality of what you are doing

    The first thing we need to do to address mass killings is change how we treat mental illness in this country. (I think everyone can agree with that) Men especially are ashamed to get the help they need and it is a waste of life not only for the victims if he loses it, but for him (because its always some crazy dude). Some people need to have their rights infringed on because they are not competent enough to handle them (especially that one) in a way that does not endanger others. The question is how do you weed them out?
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    Re: Dems keep it classy

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    I hear you and don't disagree with the fact that regardless of how you do it the victim is still dead and dead is the same no matter how you got there.

    However,

    1)it is much easier to kill someone with a gun: victim has less of a chance of getting away, more likely to happen in the heat of the moment because a gun was accessible, more likely to end up dead (wound more lethal) ...

    2)you can kill them from a distance: it detaches you from the reality of what you are doing

    The first thing we need to do to address mass killings is change how we treat mental illness in this country. (I think everyone can agree with that) Men especially are ashamed to get the help they need and it is a waste of life not only for the victims if he loses it, but for him (because its always some crazy dude). Some people need to have their rights infringed on because they are not competent enough to handle them (especially that one) in a way that does not endanger others. The question is how do you weed them out?
    There are already many factors that can exclude you from firearm ownership. Ex-convict/felony status, documented mental impairment, etc. all disallow someone to legally own a firearm.

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    Re: Dems keep it classy

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    its time republicans take the gloves off and stop playing the gentleman sport of politics they have been trying to play for years. it is time to go bare fisted and start fighting just like the left if they expect to win anything. you cant fight a fair fight and win if your opponent refuses to do the same
    More CONfusion on the radical right... the gloves came off with those Willie Horton ads back when BushI ran for president.

    Seems to me the communications director is a far cry from someone running for Congress or a recovering drug addict going on national radio to call a college co-ed- slut, demanding to tape her sexual activity because she wants her Insurance Company to put birth control in the coverage.

    Problem with the CON game is they try and make every bad act equal, and ignore their over the top buffoons all the while declaring the 'gloves need to come off' when going dirty- (anyone who has actually done any work that gets your hands dirty knows you put gloves ON)

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    Re: Dems keep it classy

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    More CONfusion on the radical right... the gloves came off with those Willie Horton ads back when BushI ran for president.

    Seems to me the communications director is a far cry from someone running for Congress or a recovering drug addict going on national radio to call a college co-ed- slut, demanding to tape her sexual activity because she wants her Insurance Company to put birth control in the coverage.

    Problem with the CON game is they try and make every bad act equal, and ignore their over the top buffoons all the while declaring the 'gloves need to come off' when going dirty- (anyone who has actually done any work that gets your hands dirty knows you put gloves ON)
    I know, right. I find the notion that the Republicans are somehow "playing nice" and have been the whole time to be utterly laughable. That is, quite literally, one of the stupidest things I've ever read.
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    Re: Dems keep it classy

    Watching people in this thread on both sides trying to shout "NUH UH! YOUR SIDES WORSE!" and have this idiotic little pissing match, spending great amounts of time and effort in saying how horrible the other side is rather than you know...TALKING ABOUT WHAT THE THREAD IS ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT....is just hillarious and highlights the issue in this country with a bunch of hyper partisan types being the primary people focused on politics. It's nothing but a pathetic blood sport at this point, with both sides being fully aware of what TINY FRACTION of time they need to spend to justify in their mind "See, I was fair" while making sure to score their pathetic little political points.

    HORRIBLE **** is said by idiots on both side of the political aisle about the other side, and the ridiculous pissing match over "which does it worse" is like arguing over Bird or Magic was the better player. Regardless of which was better (largely matter of opinion), they were both great players...or in this case, regardless of which you think is worse (largerly matter of opinion), they both are ****ing bad about it.

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