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    Re: 13 People Including a Child Shot in Chicago Last Night!!

    This is the bulk of Chicago's Gun Problems and that of many others Major urban cities. One thing is a fact.....no amount of gun laws. Will stop these types from getting guns and weapons. Gun Control.....wont solve this problem.

    Gangs and Politicians: Map of Chicago Gangs.....

    Experts estimate that there are 70,000 to 125,000 gang members in Chicago—a population that, on the low end, rivals Evanston’s and, on the high end, exceeds Springfield’s. Over the years, Chicago’s street gangs have formed two loose alliances: the People and the Folks. According to information from the Chicago Police Department, which tracks gang boundaries, here are the five largest gangs and where they reign.


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    Re: 13 People Including a Child Shot in Chicago Last Night!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    I heard a really good report on NPR about how violent crime is going up because El Chapo Guzman has set up Chicago as the Sinaloa Cartel's "hub" for their midwest drug distribution network.
    When I first read the OP it reminded me of what happened in Ciudad Juarez where the party for a 13 year old was shot up and many were killed, but taht was Los Zetas.

    The Sinaloa Cartel, at least here in Mexico, do not do things like that.

    Maybe there is a connection but it is more likely a local gang problem.

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    Re: 13 People Including a Child Shot in Chicago Last Night!!

    Solutions:

    1. Create a volunteer repeat offender exile program. Instead of prison, offer qualifying convicts the opportunity to permanently leave the United States NEVER to return again to a host country willing to accept them. The convict irrevocably loses their American citizenship, is banned from entering the US for life and must agree to live under the laws of their new country including penalties if those laws are broken that might or might not include cruel and unusual punishment by American constitutional standards. The convict gets to start fresh and turn over new leaf. The host country gets the economic boost from American money being sent from families to help the former convict get established and a new US tourist industry from family and friends of the former convict to places few Americans would ever visit.

    2. Create a voluntary public employee mentoring program. For those who choose, allocate a portion of police officers' paid work week to at risk youth mentoring programs such as the Police Athletic League. I'm talking about really young kids before the gangs get to them. Possibly extend the program to other city and state employees, especially those who work in law enforcement in some capacity and first responders.

    3. Unless they suffer from medical conditions that are compounded by their use or claim a faith related exemption, require people on public assistance to be on doctor prescribed birth control their use until they are gainfully employed and no longer on government assistance.

    4. Make prison less pleasant. No TV. No or limited air-conditioning. No or limited heat. No hot water. Horrible food; no salt or other seasonings and room temperature food and drinks. Require prisoners to grow much of their own food on prison farms. Create prison web pages where the public may access pages where live webcams can watch various areas of each prison 24/7 and see how miserable they are.
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    Re: 13 People Including a Child Shot in Chicago Last Night!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    I heard a really good report on NPR about how violent crime is going up because El Chapo Guzman has set up Chicago as the Sinaloa Cartel's "hub" for their midwest drug distribution network.
    So, basically, a ban on guns won't do anything, because if they can get the drugs in, they can get the guns in.

    This is clear cut proof that a gun ban will do nothing but insure that only the bad guys will have guns.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: 13 People Including a Child Shot in Chicago Last Night!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Solutions:

    1. Create a volunteer repeat offender exile program. Instead of prison, offer qualifying convicts the opportunity to permanently leave the United States NEVER to return again to a host country willing to accept them. The convict irrevocably loses their American citizenship, is banned from entering the US for life and must agree to live under the laws of their new country including penalties if those laws are broken that might or might not include cruel and unusual punishment by American constitutional standards. The convict gets to start fresh and turn over new leaf. The host country gets the economic boost from American money being sent from families to help the former convict get established and a new US tourist industry from family and friends of the former convict to places few Americans would ever visit.

    2. Create a voluntary public employee mentoring program. For those who choose, allocate a portion of police officers' paid work week to at risk youth mentoring programs such as the Police Athletic League. I'm talking about really young kids before the gangs get to them. Possibly extend the program to other city and state employees, especially those who work in law enforcement in some capacity and first responders.

    3. Unless they suffer from medical conditions that are compounded by their use or claim a faith related exemption, require people on public assistance to be on doctor prescribed birth control their use until they are gainfully employed and no longer on government assistance.

    4. Make prison less pleasant. No TV. No or limited air-conditioning. No or limited heat. No hot water. Horrible food; no salt or other seasonings and room temperature food and drinks. Require prisoners to grow much of their own food on prison farms. Create prison web pages where the public may access pages where live webcams can watch various areas of each prison 24/7 and see how miserable they are.
    There is only one solution without just going in and killing them all.

    Solution.....the US takes the Sinai. Calls it the 51 state. We throw up some Military bases and a few major Prisons. We throw all these types up in there. Anything jumps off in the ME. We offer them Amnesty outside the US for going and taking care of Business. Example.....Hezbollah, Meet the People. Specifically Vice-Lords, Stones, Latin Kings. We end covering Israel's back, and any ME Countries that want to talk about the Suez. Don't!!!!!

    Say goodbye to Hezbollah.....within a month. Muslim Brotherhood, Meet the Folks and the People. Say goodbye to the MB within 90 days.

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    Re: 13 People Including a Child Shot in Chicago Last Night!!

    Chicago Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy said it was a "miracle" no one was killed when someone opened fire with a high-powered rifle at a pick-up basketball game in the Back of the Yards, and he renewed his call for a ban on assault weapons.

    13 people, including 3-year-old, shot at South Side park - chicagotribune.com
    Why doesn't McCarthy get off his lazy ass and go after the goofballs that are using these weapons?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: 13 People Including a Child Shot in Chicago Last Night!!

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, basically, a ban on guns won't do anything, because if they can get the drugs in, they can get the guns in.

    This is clear cut proof that a gun ban will do nothing but insure that only the bad guys will have guns.
    If they can get the guns in then they can get the drugs in. This is clear cut proof that a drug ban does nothing.

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    Re: 13 People Including a Child Shot in Chicago Last Night!!

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Why doesn't McCarthy get off his lazy ass and go after the goofballs that are using these weapons?
    Because they could end causing a war with Little kids that have guns. How does that look for the News at 4, 5 and 9? Police killing gangbanger kids. Cops would be in the Right. But the visuals won't help.

    Jesse Jackson has called for Homeland Security to come in. He has called for the National Guard to be brought in. Yet why wont he take his ass out on the streets and stay there for months. Like the Occupy people?

    Especially since Jesse touts that Rainbow Push Coalition.

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    Re: 13 People Including a Child Shot in Chicago Last Night!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Why? Because its working so well in Chicago?

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    Re: 13 People Including a Child Shot in Chicago Last Night!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    If they can get the guns in then they can get the drugs in. This is clear cut proof that a drug ban does nothing.

    Well the Latin Kings specialize in Military Ordinance......and not just from stealing here within the Country. But from all over South and Central America. They also have People in different Militaries all throughout the same.

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