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    Re: 13 People Including a Child Shot in Chicago Last Night!!

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Exactly. I cannot understand why good people choose to live in these war zones. Why they don't rise up enmass and kick the bangers out of the neighborhood. Why they don't step up and identify these thugs and get rid of them. The Wild West did it with vigilante law enforcement.
    . My own mom would have lived homeless under a bridge before she would have subjected me to the likes of these horror-filled neighborhoods. These people? Think that's normal? Afraid to take back their own streets? "I saw nothing...I know nothing." What's wrong with them??
    Fear is the prime motivator. When gangs shoot they seldom aim that is why so many innocents are hit including kids sitting in the homes. Not long ago a "rule" spread around cities to never turn in anyone regardless of the crime. I don''t know how that worked out but looking at Chicago I would guess not very well. This is why these areas are breeding grounds for gangs. A child tries to grow up in the bucket of **** only to join the gang.
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    Re: 13 People Including a Child Shot in Chicago Last Night!!

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    We all know historically Communists don't won't people to have guns. Messes up their whole objective.

    Besides, criminals don't care about or abide by laws of any sort.

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    Re: 13 People Including a Child Shot in Chicago Last Night!!

    I heard a really good report on NPR about how violent crime is going up because El Chapo Guzman has set up Chicago as the Sinaloa Cartel's "hub" for their midwest drug distribution network.
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    Re: 13 People Including a Child Shot in Chicago Last Night!!

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Exactly. I cannot understand why good people choose to live in these war zones. Why they don't rise up enmass and kick the bangers out of the neighborhood. Why they don't step up and identify these thugs and get rid of them. The Wild West did it with vigilante law enforcement.

    My own mom would have lived homeless under a bridge before she would have subjected me to the likes of these horror-filled neighborhoods. These people? Think that's normal? Afraid to take back their own streets? "I saw nothing...I know nothing." What's wrong with them??
    Because they're at the mercy of the criminals and they know it. Because they would stand the chance of being prosecuted for defending themselves or for taking any kind of provocative action against the gangbangers in their neighborhoods. SOME people would rather we tolerate them. It also wouldn't be surprising if some law enforcement officials are bought and paid for by gangsters. Would YOU trust your local law enforcement? These people who are caught in these war zones don't know who to trust IMO.

    Also, many poor people don't have the luxury to just up and move. A lot of them are stuck in these situations without many opportunities afforded to them as far as living arrangements go.

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    Re: 13 People Including a Child Shot in Chicago Last Night!!

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Exactly. I cannot understand why good people choose to live in these war zones. Why they don't rise up enmass and kick the bangers out of the neighborhood. Why they don't step up and identify these thugs and get rid of them. The Wild West did it with vigilante law enforcement.

    My own mom would have lived homeless under a bridge before she would have subjected me to the likes of these horror-filled neighborhoods. These people? Think that's normal? Afraid to take back their own streets? "I saw nothing...I know nothing." What's wrong with them??
    If that is the world you are born into you may not realize what a horrible place it is. Most of these people don't leave a ten block area in their whole lives.

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    Re: 13 People Including a Child Shot in Chicago Last Night!!

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    Re: 13 People Including a Child Shot in Chicago Last Night!!

    Quote Originally Posted by rhinefire View Post
    Fear is the prime motivator. When gangs shoot they seldom aim that is why so many innocents are hit including kids sitting in the homes. Not long ago a "rule" spread around cities to never turn in anyone regardless of the crime. I don''t know how that worked out but looking at Chicago I would guess not very well. This is why these areas are breeding grounds for gangs. A child tries to grow up in the bucket of **** only to join the gang.
    I'm starting to think we need a war on gangs, just being in one should land you in prison. They are criminal organizations and threaten the well being of this country as much as terrorist.

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    Re: 13 People Including a Child Shot in Chicago Last Night!!

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Exactly. I cannot understand why good people choose to live in these war zones. Why they don't rise up enmass and kick the bangers out of the neighborhood. Why they don't step up and identify these thugs and get rid of them. The Wild West did it with vigilante law enforcement.

    My own mom would have lived homeless under a bridge before she would have subjected me to the likes of these horror-filled neighborhoods. These people? Think that's normal? Afraid to take back their own streets? "I saw nothing...I know nothing." What's wrong with them??
    IMHO, it is that they fear being in pretty much the same situation elsewhere (remember that this all they know) yet will lack their current extended family and friends. They may well know who are committing these acts of violence but fear that breaking the code of silence (the no "snitching" rule) will be the end of them and their immediate family. You must also remember that the media consrantly hypes the prevalence of white on black crimel, so they may actually think that things are bad everywhere.

    The educational system may also play a part; if they have children that are "doing well" in these substandard schools it would be quite a shock to have them find out that they are at least a grade level (or two) behind reality in most other areas of the country. I think that you may be right about fear of the unknown, or the realization that they may go from average to well below average in another area, keeps them from fleeing even these teriible living conditions.
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    Re: 13 People Including a Child Shot in Chicago Last Night!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    I heard a really good report on NPR about how violent crime is going up because El Chapo Guzman has set up Chicago as the Sinaloa Cartel's "hub" for their midwest drug distribution network.

    I heard that also and I've heard another city in IL as well, can't think of the name he said but starts with a "P". Supposedly Guzmans nephew has been stationed there and they mean business.
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    Re: 13 People Including a Child Shot in Chicago Last Night!!

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    If that is the world you are born into you may not realize what a horrible place it is. Most of these people don't leave a ten block area in their whole lives.
    This reminds me of a conversation I had with a client, Nate. He was a black man working (thru affirmative action) for a large Fortune 500 company. He told me he'd enlisted in the service at 17 because he knew that if he didn't "get out" he'd be dead or in prison before he was 25. We talked about his life and his neighborhood frequently. When I mentioned that we were lucky these gang bangers stayed in their own neighborhoods and didn't ride out to the suburbs, he said the reason they'd never do that is because they think every neighborhood has gang bangers, even the 'burbs.
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