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Boehner: Obama should negotiate on debt, but not with me

if the federal government has to shut down, all 50 states have to shut down their government.

how does anarchy sound?

Only an idiot would believe the federal government is going to shut down completely. That's probably why the Dems like to make that claim, it's an easy sell to their base.
 
Choice is choice, and you cannot justify getting rid of a system just because it supports people and family's who did not make the same life decisions as you

Is there reason that I can't?
 
you may have any obligation to help them, but the government has a obligation to help them because they are members of socitey and the community

Government is not responsible for the voluntary actions of its citizens when it comes to taking care of the results of their procreation activities...
 
it is the government's Human obligation to not let their citizens suffer needlessly.

You're floundering. The government has no "human" responsibilities, it has governmental duties as prescribed by law, and we are debating those activities that directly take from one to support functions that should be provided for by the individuals that took the action and its result...
 
You're floundering. The government has no "human" responsibilities, it has governmental duties as prescribed by law, and we are debating those activities that directly take from one to support functions that should be provided for by the individuals that took the action and its result...

and what about the people who are on the program, and are the ones who could potentially suffer if this program is defunded.

They cannot undo the life choices they have made, but they continue to try to live by their choices.

we live and die by our choices.
 
and what about the people who are on the program, and are the ones who could potentially suffer if this program is defunded.

Where are the families? I'm certainly not a member, or I would help if appropriate circumstances justified the action...
 
Where are the families? I'm certainly not a member, or I would help if appropriate circumstances justified the action...

it does not matter if you are family member, these families are seeking help from a government program intended to help families who cannot qualify for medicaid but cannot afford private insurance.
 
it does not matter if you are family member, these families are seeking help from a government program intended to help families who cannot qualify for medicaid but cannot afford private insurance.

The government is not a member of their family and had no involvement in their decision making. I'm not sure where you're having difficulty in understanding this...
 
you may have any obligation to help them, but the government has a obligation to help them because they are members of socitey and the community

What? No one has an obligation to help them including the government.
 
As per the thread name, Boehner has admitted in public that he is "no expert on economics".
As for today's bravado, including a false and negative link between Obama and Putin, just red meat.
The blowback from normal Repubs has started.
Cruz now admits he might have to wait til next election.
it does not matter if you are family member, these families are seeking help from a government program intended to help families who cannot qualify for medicaid but cannot afford private insurance.
 
The government is not a member of their family and had no involvement in their decision making. I'm not sure where you're having difficulty in understanding this...

We all make our choices. They cannot change the fact they have a child, or want a child. All they want is to have affordable insurance for their children. They make too much to qualify for medicaid, but they cannot afford private insurance? who are they supposed to turn to in that situation. The chip program exists to help people who cannot qualify for medicaid but cannot afford private insurance.
 
We all make our choices. They cannot change the fact they have a child, or want a child. All they want is to have affordable insurance for their children. They make too much to qualify for medicaid, but they cannot afford private insurance? who are they supposed to turn to in that situation. The chip program exists to help people who cannot qualify for medicaid but cannot afford private insurance.

DON'T HAVE CHILDREN OR TAKE ON ANY OTHER RESPONSIBILITIES THAT YOU CANNOT ADEQUATELY SUPPORT. Sorry to yell, but it really is that simple...
 
so if their child gets sick and they cannot afford to pay for private insurance, we should just stand by and do nothing to help them?

We? There is no we here pal. If you want to help this family you speak of be my guest. I have nothing against helping people in need if that is what people decide to do.
 
But when you say don't have children, you're now stepping on right-wing engineering.
You and I both know teenagers specifically and humans in general.
They are going to have SEX. Then comes the arguing on the A word. And contraception. ETC
Present Moment Awareness on helping these folks TRANSITION .
DON'T HAVE CHILDREN OR TAKE ON ANY OTHER RESPONSIBILITIES THAT YOU CANNOT ADEQUATELY SUPPORT. Sorry to yell, but it really is that simple...
 
Boehner tried this before... reaching across the aisle and negotiating with Obama. Obama made a fool of him. Boehner gave Obama what he wanted in exchange for future consideration and Obama didn't hold up his end. He's a liar, I wouldn't do it either. If it weren't for Obama's security Boehner should have slapped that condescending grin off of his face. Fool me once...

Funny I thought Boney got gobsmacked by his own party which balked at the compromise. He made himself the fool, and his own party betrayed him....
 
But when you say don't have children, you're now stepping on right-wing engineering.
You and I both know teenagers specifically and humans in general.
They are going to have SEX. Then comes the arguing on the A word. And contraception.
present ZMoment Awareness on helping these folks TRANSITION .

Individuals, possibly families, need to take responsibility for the results of their decisions. Not you, not me.
 
We? There is no we here pal. If you want to help this family you speak of be my guest. I have nothing against helping people in need if that is what people decide to do.

when i say "we" i don't just mean you and me. I mean should we as a community, as a society, or as a nation stand by and do nothing to help our fellow people and countrymen? Is it wrong to have the belief that ones fellow humans should not be allowed to suffer?

These people cannot qualify for medicaid but their children should not be denied coverage because they cannot afford private coverage. what the United states government spends its tax dollars on should benefit the American people.
 
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