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    Re: Boehner: Obama should negotiate on debt, but not with me

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Do you have recent polling data to support this statement?
    Total diversion. This is like people telling me I was completely wrong about schools having conceal carry. When you prove that schools do have CC, they minimize and still ridicule. This diversion is the GOP style.

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    Re: Boehner: Obama should negotiate on debt, but not with me

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    why on earth would the president sign any bill that includes his signature achievement?
    Because it is a proven disaster.
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    Re: Boehner: Obama should negotiate on debt, but not with me

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Total diversion. This is like people telling me I was completely wrong about schools having conceal carry. When you prove it that scoops do, they minimize and still ridicule. This diversion is the GOP style.
    I post opinion, but if someone wants to post something as fact, I expect support for it...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Boehner: Obama should negotiate on debt, but not with me

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Boehner is not being portrayed as a villain: he is being portrayed as incapable of handling his position as speaker of the house. The affordable care act may not be the best attempt at reforming healthcare system, But obama has managed to pass a bill that tries to something previous presidents who have failed to pass similar bills that reform the healthcare system.

    The affordable care act, for all of its flaws, is the first healthcare reform bill that any president has sucessfully signed into law, and that is why it is historic.

    And that historical achievement is now a hostage, the required sacrifice needed to allow the government to function and raise the debt ceiling.

    The debt ceiling is not something to bargain over, the full faith and credit of the united states government should not be risked to satisfy one parties obsession in destroying something they view as ideological blasphemy.
    The majority of the population is against obamcare and was against it when it passed. The democratic party has been trying to take over healthcare since FDR and his second bill of rights and with the passing of Obamacare that was designed to fail according to Reid they have a path forward to get there. If you want to call forcing people to buy and provide things to others against their will a flaw in Obamcare, fine, but to call a law that does it a historic achievement is a bad joke. This is a law that forces people into commerce and is meant to fail and you're out calling it an achievement? Give me a ****ing break.

    I love how the "we support democracy" crowd has a tendency to pass laws everyone hates and then sits around saying "you will love it when it goes into effect" because hey, ignoring the people is fine if they love it in the end.
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    Re: Boehner: Obama should negotiate on debt, but not with me

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Because that is the point of what the Repubs in the House are doing.

    Actually, if the Senate and Obama don't go along, they alone will be at fault for a government shutdown.
    I actually want to see it happen so that very theory can be tested in the midterm elections. I look forward to seeing that result.
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    Re: Boehner: Obama should negotiate on debt, but not with me

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    if the federal government has to shut down, all 50 states have to shut down their government.

    how does anarchy sound?
    Only an idiot would believe the federal government is going to shut down completely. That's probably why the Dems like to make that claim, it's an easy sell to their base.
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    Re: Boehner: Obama should negotiate on debt, but not with me

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Choice is choice, and you cannot justify getting rid of a system just because it supports people and family's who did not make the same life decisions as you
    Is there reason that I can't?

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    Re: Boehner: Obama should negotiate on debt, but not with me

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    and Walgreen's business decision makes the argument for defunding the Affordable care act how?

    just a question: how many people will suffer when the affordable care act is defunded?

    for example, the current proposal to defund obama care would also defund the CHIP Program.



    GOP Obamacare Defunding Bill Would Gut Children's Health Insurance Program
    So a liberal program would get harmed. My ability to care is lacking..

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    Re: Boehner: Obama should negotiate on debt, but not with me

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Is there reason that I can't?
    you may have any obligation to help them, but the government has a obligation to help them because they are members of socitey and the community

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    Re: Boehner: Obama should negotiate on debt, but not with me

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    So a liberal program would get harmed. My ability to care is lacking..
    its not just the program, its the people who depend on it.

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