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    Re: Boehner: Obama should negotiate on debt, but not with me

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Boehner has to negotiate: either with obama, harry reid, or else he will have to negotiate with Nancy Pelosi to pass something that house democrats can support
    No he does not.

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    The President is dishonest and can't be trusted - why would Boehner agree to negotiate with him? It's that simple.
    On this issue he is certainly playing Awe Shucks I am just a babe in the woods, but a lot of it has to do with his inability or unwillingness to even try to lead the democrat party and get them to compromise on anything. The speaker has been screwed by Obama and Reid before, and by his own party, so it is a smart move on his part to avoid that "Boehner is a villain" mantle they are constantly trying to hang around his neck.

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    Re: Boehner: Obama should negotiate on debt, but not with me

    Boehner tried this before... reaching across the aisle and negotiating with Obama. Obama made a fool of him. Boehner gave Obama what he wanted in exchange for future consideration and Obama didn't hold up his end. He's a liar, I wouldn't do it either. If it weren't for Obama's security Boehner should have slapped that condescending grin off of his face. Fool me once...

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    Re: Boehner: Obama should negotiate on debt, but not with me

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    There will be filibusters in the Senate and the deadline for funding OC is the day after the debt limit vote.

    Your right, unless the Senate is willing to defund OC, there won't be funding for anything.
    Sounds like it's time for the Senate to consider what the People want too. But since they are led by the left, their sense of superiority will not allow them to. It seems likely the shutdown will happen and the Republicans will be blamed. And the Democrat voters will believe it because they are starstruck idiots.

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    Re: Boehner: Obama should negotiate on debt, but not with me

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    No he does not.



    On this issue he is certainly playing Awe Shucks I am just a babe in the woods, but a lot of it has to do with his inability or unwillingness to even try to lead the democrat party and get them to compromise on anything. The speaker has been screwed by Obama and Reid before, and by his own party, so it is a smart move on his part to avoid that "Boehner is a villain" mantle they are constantly trying to hang around his neck.
    Boehner is not being portrayed as a villain: he is being portrayed as incapable of handling his position as speaker of the house. The affordable care act may not be the best attempt at reforming healthcare system, But obama has managed to pass a bill that tries to something previous presidents who have failed to pass similar bills that reform the healthcare system.

    The affordable care act, for all of its flaws, is the first healthcare reform bill that any president has sucessfully signed into law, and that is why it is historic.

    And that historical achievement is now a hostage, the required sacrifice needed to allow the government to function and raise the debt ceiling.

    The debt ceiling is not something to bargain over, the full faith and credit of the united states government should not be risked to satisfy one parties obsession in destroying something they view as ideological blasphemy.

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    Re: Boehner: Obama should negotiate on debt, but not with me

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    Sounds like it's time for the Senate to consider what the People want too. But since they are led by the left, their sense of superiority will not allow them to. It seems likely the shutdown will happen and the Republicans will be blamed. And the Democrat voters will believe it because they are starstruck idiots.
    Beauty of this is-People out here in the world will care less about the govt being shut down!!

    I know I wont!!

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    Re: Boehner: Obama should negotiate on debt, but not with me

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Boehner is not being portrayed as a villain: he is being portrayed as incapable of handling his position as speaker of the house. The affordable care act may not be the best attempt at reforming healthcare system, But obama has managed to pass a bill that tries to something previous presidents who have failed to pass similar bills that reform the healthcare system.

    The affordable care act, for all of its flaws, is the first healthcare reform bill that any president has sucessfully signed into law, and that is why it is historic.

    And that historical achievement is now a hostage, the required sacrifice needed to allow the government to function and raise the debt ceiling.

    The debt ceiling is not something to bargain over, the full faith and credit of the united states government should not be risked to satisfy one parties obsession in destroying something they view as ideological blasphemy.
    It doesn't mean it is good for the country...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Boehner: Obama should negotiate on debt, but not with me

    Quote Originally Posted by penn1954 View Post
    Beauty of this is-People out here in the world will care less about the govt being shut down!!

    I know I wont!!
    if the federal government has to shut down, all 50 states have to shut down their government.

    how does anarchy sound?

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    Re: Boehner: Obama should negotiate on debt, but not with me

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    if the federal government has to shut down, all 50 states have to shut down their government.

    how does anarchy sound?
    Why would States have to shut down their governments?
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Boehner: Obama should negotiate on debt, but not with me

    Quote Originally Posted by penn1954 View Post
    Beauty of this is-People out here in the world will care less about the govt being shut down!!

    I know I wont!!
    I'm right there with you. The less time they are working the less chance they have of screwing it up worse. The last time it happened I woke up in the morning and noticed my liberty was standing tall. It's a wonderful thing.

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    Re: Boehner: Obama should negotiate on debt, but not with me

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    Sounds like it's time for the Senate to consider what the People want too. But since they are led by the left, their sense of superiority will not allow them to. It seems likely the shutdown will happen and the Republicans will be blamed. And the Democrat voters will believe it because they are starstruck idiots.
    The Right gets blamed regardless and for everything.

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