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    Re: DeLay conviction overturned

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    1. First, what do you have to say about the fact that............................
    a jury of 12 Texas citizens heard the case and pronounced him guilty. That pretty much says it all.
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    Re: DeLay conviction overturned

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    When a Dem prosecutor decides to make up law as he goes to punish a Republican for being a Republican he has served the Dems well. They never have cared much about the law and probably never will.

    Those "12 citizens entrusted" probably had little clue as to what the law actually was. They sure didn't hear what the law was from the Dem prosecutor. As the appeal judges made clear.

    I won't blame those 12 for the miscarriage of justice when the fault lies with the political hack DA.
    A jury of 12 Texas citizens heard the case from both sides, heard the judge explain the law and rendered a verdict of GUILTY.
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    Re: DeLay conviction overturned

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    a jury of 12 Texas citizens heard the case and pronounced him guilty. That pretty much says it all.
    Well, says it all if you add that this was after the prosecutor, a partisan democrat, subverted the grand jury system convening as many as necessary to get the results he wanted rather than looking for justice...and it says it all if you ignore the fact that even when asked by this very "jury of 12 Texas citizens" the judge failed to identify the true nature of the law in the case which, since they asked and had they been told, if they were honest Texans they would probably acquitted...and says it all if the country allowed ex post facto laws [ which we have all be taught since middle school that it absolutely does not ]...

    So, yeah, your statement says it all if you want the truth to be absent of the truth...but why would one want that?
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    Re: DeLay conviction overturned

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Well, says it all if you add that this was after the prosecutor, a partisan democrat, subverted the grand jury system convening as many as necessary to get the results he wanted rather than looking for justice...and it says it all if you ignore the fact that even when asked by this very "jury of 12 Texas citizens" the judge failed to identify the true nature of the law in the case which, since they asked and had they been told, if they were honest Texans they would probably acquitted...and says it all if the country allowed ex post facto laws [ which we have all be taught since middle school that it absolutely does not ]...

    So, yeah, your statement says it all if you want the truth to be absent of the truth...but why would one want that?
    and did the court appointed lawyer right out of a fourth rate law school for DeLay have the opportunity to make his case before those same 12 Texas citizens?
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    Re: DeLay conviction overturned

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    This development is very sad indeed and a serious blow to those who advocate removing big money from government and politics. Its a victory for the cynical and for big money..... not to mention crooks like tom DeLay.
    It is not a victory for anyone but Tom DeLay.

    He was charged with a crime that was not a crime at the time it was done. The government retroactively prosecuted DeLay under a law that made the "contributions" illegal.

    As much as what he did, yes it was unethical...IMO, but you cant prosecute someone retroactively.

    Prosecuting him under this law would be like the government coming up with a law in 2013 and prosecuting you for breaking that law in 1973.
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    Re: DeLay conviction overturned

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    and did the court appointed lawyer right out of a fourth rate law school for DeLay have the opportunity to make his case before those same 12 Texas citizens?
    Hard to reasonably argue about the truth when you have a prosecutor who had no intention to properly follow the law, and a judge who, when specifically asked, would not tell the jury what the truth about the law is, or with an ideologue who predicates his positions on whether the other side is a liberal or Democrat and not a conservative or Republican.

    Hold your hands over your ears, over your eyes [ and I know, its impossible for a liberal to hold his/her mouth ], believe what you want to believe. All rational people know you are simply wrong...but you can keep denying it as it is not illegal to hold an opinion that is either hypocritical, frivolously absurd... or both.
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    Re: DeLay conviction overturned

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Hard to reasonably argue about the truth when you have a prosecutor who had no intention to properly follow the law, and a judge who, when specifically asked, would not tell the jury what the truth about the law is, or with an ideologue who predicates his positions on whether the other side is a liberal or Democrat and not a conservative or Republican.

    Hold your hands over your ears, over your eyes [ and I know, its impossible for a liberal to hold his/her mouth ], believe what you want to believe. All rational people know you are simply wrong...but you can keep denying it as it is not illegal to hold an opinion that is either hypocritical, frivolously absurd... or both.
    I really have no idea what you are talking about with these claims and allegations. Could you please provide verifiable evidence of these claims?
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    Re: DeLay conviction overturned

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I really have no idea what you are talking about with these claims and allegations. Could you please provide verifiable evidence of these claims?
    Check with what the appeals judges said again. They verified it.
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    Re: DeLay conviction overturned

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    Check with what the appeals judges said again. They verified it.
    You are merely repeating partisan opinion and not providing evidence of provable fact. And even then you are only alluding to what you think it says rather than presenting any actual evidence to be examined.
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    Re: DeLay conviction overturned

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    a jury of 12 Texas citizens heard the case and pronounced him guilty. That pretty much says it all.
    And 12 jurors found OJ Simpson innocent. That pretty much says it all, and why there are courts of appeal.

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