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    Re: DeLay conviction overturned

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    more likely a big blow to partisan democratic party hacks who pushed this prosecution for political reasons and now get their hackery blown away by the appellate court

    since Delay's presumption of innocence now returns, calling him a crook is incorrect
    12 Texas citizens who heard the case day after day and witness after witness disagree with your partisan explanation.
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    that happens all the time-look at all the rape defendants being acquitted years after their convictions based on DNA
    Being a lawyer you should know this is NOT the same thing at all. DNA evidence can prove that the convicted person DID NOT DO THE CRIME. There was no such finding in the DeLay case. two Republicans simply decided that the judgment of 12 jurors was not good enough for their standards and so they rewarded one of their fellow true believers.
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    Re: DeLay conviction overturned

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    12 citizens who heard the case for day after day and witness after witness came to the opposite conclusion.
    It's obvious they made a mistake. The law says they made a mistake. The appeals court judges say they made a mistake.

    But you say otherwise. LOL.

    It's clear what drives your mistake.
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    Re: DeLay conviction overturned

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    12 jurors are there to decide that issue.
    It's scary that people actually believe that.
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    Re: DeLay conviction overturned

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    Digging back in my memory after reading the article there were several things that I thought odd about this case.
    Delay transferred money to the RNC via check in 2002, but this was not illegal till 2004.
    Delay had suggested to the RNC where they could send his donation, but had no ability to direct funds.
    The funds were sent, unencumbered.
    DA Earle in Travis county took this to 6 Grand Juries before he got an indictment.
    DA Earle is exactly the kind of prosecutor America has no need for. A political driven hack with no regard for the law. Reminds me of the clown in NC and the Duke lacrosse team. He got what was needed maybe Earle will too.
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    Re: DeLay conviction overturned

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Being a lawyer you should know this is NOT the same thing at all. DNA evidence can prove that the convicted person DID NOT DO THE CRIME. There was no such finding in the DeLay case. two Republicans simply decided that the judgment of 12 jurors was not good enough for their standards and so they rewarded one of their fellow true believers.
    Not with DNA, but with a calender. The events happened in 2002, money was transferred via check to the RNC.
    The law that made check transfers illegal was not in place till 2004.
    Delay may have violated the spirit of the law in place in 2002, but not the letter of the law.

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    Re: DeLay conviction overturned

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    Looks like something might have been trumped up given the overturning and the lack of DoJ action.

    A jury spent a long time listening to evidence and convicted him. Why spend the money and the time if a small panel can come along and reverse the decision and work of a jury? I'm sure they are pissed. And only partisan GOPpers think this is cool.

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    Re: DeLay conviction overturned

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    A jury spent a long time listening to evidence and convicted him. Why spend the money and the time if a small panel can come along and reverse the decision and work of a jury? I'm sure they are pissed. And only partisan GOPpers think this is cool.
    It's that what appeals are all about?
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    Re: DeLay conviction overturned

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    It's obvious they made a mistake. The law says they made a mistake. The appeals court judges say they made a mistake.

    But you say otherwise. LOL.

    It's clear what drives your mistake.
    Two republicans rewarding another republican for political services rendered to the party found a way to override the findings of 12 citizens entrusted to dispense justice.
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    Re: DeLay conviction overturned

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    Not with DNA, but with a calender. The events happened in 2002, money was transferred via check to the RNC.
    The law that made check transfers illegal was not in place till 2004.
    Delay may have violated the spirit of the law in place in 2002, but not the letter of the law.
    A jury of 12 men and women in Texas heard all the evidence and decided otherwise.
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