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    Re: DeLay conviction overturned

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    This from the Wikipedia entry on DeLay



    Delay was indeed found GUILTY of crimes. His conviction was reversed on appeal NOT BECAUSE evidence showed him to be innocent - but in the opinion of the appeals court was legally insufficient to sustain conviction". A jury who heard the actual case felt otherwise and found him GUILTY. To pretend that he is an INNOCENT man is ridiculous. You only have the presumption of INNOCENCE in a court until you are found GUILTY. That train left the station long ago.

    this from the Washington Post



    The two judges who overturned the verdict were Republicans. As Gomer Pyle used to say. SURPRISE SURPRISE!!!!!

    DeLay conviction overturned; DA promises appeal - Houston Chronicle
    Like I said, he was innocent. If the Judges had thought him to be guilty, he would have started a jail term yesterday.

    I like this part, "prosecutors said". Did you mention what political party they belonged to? You didn't? Why is that?

    It's clear the "prosecutor's said" a lot of things they shouldn't have.
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    Re: DeLay conviction overturned

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I never heard of this. Do you have any evidence of this claim?
    Did you not say this???
    The two judges who overturned the verdict were Republicans. As Gomer Pyle used to say. SURPRISE SURPRISE!!!!!
    What did you mean by that?

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    Re: DeLay conviction overturned

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Do you have any evidence that Delay's conviction was turned over for political reasons.
    Perhaps you did not read what I previously cited? I find it more than coincidental that a jury of 12 citizens heard from over 40 witnesses and found DeLay guilty and then two Republican judges decide that the very same evidence that convinced a jury of citizens of his guilt was not enough for them. Were I a juror in that case I would give those two Republicans the Italian salute for disrespecting how I performed my civic duty and the next time called for such jury service would do everything I could to get out of it. Such is the negative impact of such things.
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    Re: DeLay conviction overturned

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You have to be a subscriber to read the whole story. This is a joke, you've provided nothing at all.
    I provided that the two judges who overturned the conviction were Republicans. That is a hell of a lot more than your ridiculous accusation of "nothing" since De Lay was a prominent and powerful Republican in Texas and his crimes significantly aided the Republican party in redistricting.
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    Re: DeLay conviction overturned

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    Like I said, he was innocent. If the Judges had thought him to be guilty, he would have started a jail term yesterday.

    I like this part, "prosecutors said". Did you mention what political party they belonged to? You didn't? Why is that?

    It's clear the "prosecutor's said" a lot of things they shouldn't have.
    Guilt is determined by the jury who hears the case. The appeals judges did not pronounce him INNOCENT. The prosecutors DID NOT HAVE THE POWER to find anybody guilty. That was done by 12 citizens who heard the evidence in the case. As such, the party of the prosecutors is not significant.
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    Re: DeLay conviction overturned

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Did you not say this???

    What did you mean by that?
    DeLays crimes were in service to the Republican Party giving them a very favorable redistricting map which will benefit them for a decade. It is hardly a surprise that two other Republicans would reward him for his service to the party.
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    Re: DeLay conviction overturned

    It pays to have friends in high places.

    I wonder what the percentage in Texas is of criminal convictions being completely overturned?

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    Re: DeLay conviction overturned

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    DeLays crimes were in service to the Republican Party giving them a very favorable redistricting map which will benefit them for a decade. It is hardly a surprise that two other Republicans would reward him for his service to the party.
    You would have preferred judges who were Democrats then?

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    Re: DeLay conviction overturned

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I provided that the two judges who overturned the conviction were Republicans. That is a hell of a lot more than your ridiculous accusation of "nothing" since De Lay was a prominent and powerful Republican in Texas and his crimes significantly aided the Republican party in redistricting.
    No, you posted a link that isn't readily accessible.
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    Re: DeLay conviction overturned

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Guilt is determined by the jury who hears the case. The appeals judges did not pronounce him INNOCENT. The prosecutors DID NOT HAVE THE POWER to find anybody guilty. That was done by 12 citizens who heard the evidence in the case. As such, the party of the prosecutors is not significant.
    What if the evidence that is presented is bull****
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