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    Re: DeLay conviction overturned

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    This development is very sad indeed and a serious blow to those who advocate removing big money from government and politics. Its a victory for the cynical and for big money..... not to mention crooks like tom DeLay.
    Sad? An innocent man gets his day in court and gets everything thrown out the window that a bunch of political hacks wrongly charged him with is "sad"?

    Nonsense. There's other remedies available, even if they are difficult, to reduce big money influence on government instead of throwing innocent people in jail.

    How would you like facing a three year sentence when you are not guilty of a damn thing?
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    Re: DeLay conviction overturned

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    Sad? An innocent man gets his day in court and gets everything thrown out the window that a bunch of political hacks wrongly charged him with is "sad"?

    Nonsense. There's other remedies available, even if they are difficult, to reduce big money influence on government instead of throwing innocent people in jail.

    How would you like facing a three year sentence when you are not guilty of a damn thing?
    Innocent man. Best laugh of the day.
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    Re: DeLay conviction overturned

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Innocent man. Best laugh of the day.
    What's he guilty of?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: DeLay conviction overturned

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    What's he guilty of?
    This from the Wikipedia entry on DeLay

    In 2005, DeLay was indicted in Austin, Texas on criminal charges of conspiracy to violate election laws in 2002 by a Travis County, Texas grand jury after having waived his rights under the statutes of limitations. In accordance with Republican Caucus rules, DeLay temporarily resigned from his position as House Majority Leader, and later, after pressure from fellow Republicans, announced that he would not seek to return to the position. He was convicted in January 2011 and sentenced to three years in prison but was free on bail while appealing his conviction, which was overturned on 19 September, 2013, with a ruling that "the evidence in the case was 'legally insufficient to sustain DeLay’s convictions.'" All the judgments were reversed, and Delay was formally acquitted.[1]
    Delay was indeed found GUILTY of crimes. His conviction was reversed on appeal NOT BECAUSE evidence showed him to be innocent - but in the opinion of the appeals court was legally insufficient to sustain conviction". A jury who heard the actual case felt otherwise and found him GUILTY. To pretend that he is an INNOCENT man is ridiculous. You only have the presumption of INNOCENCE in a court until you are found GUILTY. That train left the station long ago.

    this from the Washington Post

    DeLay, 66, was convicted in 2010 for allegedly trying to influence Texas elections by funneling corporate money to various candidates. Prosecutors said that the money helped the GOP win control of the Texas House and that the majority then pushed through a DeLay-organized congressional redistricting plan that sent more Republicans to Congress. The Justice Department has joined lawsuits challenging the makeup of the map, claiming it unfairly draws minority communities out of certain districts.
    The two judges who overturned the verdict were Republicans. As Gomer Pyle used to say. SURPRISE SURPRISE!!!!!

    http://www.houstonchronicle.com/news...ed-4827002.php
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    Re: DeLay conviction overturned

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    This from the Wikipedia entry on DeLay



    Delay was indeed found GUILTY of crimes. His conviction was reversed on appeal NOT BECAUSE evidence showed him to be innocent - but in the opinion of the appeals court was legally insufficient to sustain conviction". A jury who heard the actual case felt otherwise and found him GUILTY. To pretend that he is an INNOCENT man is ridiculous. You only have the presumption of INNOCENCE in a court until you are found GUILTY. That train left the station long ago.

    this from the Washington Post



    The two judges who overturned the verdict were Republicans. As Gomer Pyle used to say. SURPRISE SURPRISE!!!!!

    DeLay conviction overturned; DA promises appeal - Houston Chronicle
    So, the judges that allowed him to be tried were Democrats?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: DeLay conviction overturned

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, the judges that allowed him to be tried were Democrats?
    I provided a verifiable link for all the information I provided.

    Where is yours?
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    Re: DeLay conviction overturned

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, the judges that allowed him to be tried were Democrats?
    It seems there is some lobbying going on for Democrats to try Republicans and Democrats to try Democrats, otherwise the verdicts will be open to question.

    Isn't it incredible??

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    Re: DeLay conviction overturned

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It seems there is some lobbying going on for Democrats to try Republicans and Democrats to try Democrats, otherwise the verdicts will be open to question.

    Isn't it incredible??
    I never heard of this. Do you have any evidence of this claim?
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    Re: DeLay conviction overturned

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I never heard of this. Do you have any evidence of this claim?
    Do you have any evidence that Delay's conviction was turned over for political reasons.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: DeLay conviction overturned

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    This from the Wikipedia entry on DeLay



    Delay was indeed found GUILTY of crimes. His conviction was reversed on appeal NOT BECAUSE evidence showed him to be innocent - but in the opinion of the appeals court was legally insufficient to sustain conviction". A jury who heard the actual case felt otherwise and found him GUILTY. To pretend that he is an INNOCENT man is ridiculous. You only have the presumption of INNOCENCE in a court until you are found GUILTY. That train left the station long ago.

    this from the Washington Post



    The two judges who overturned the verdict were Republicans. As Gomer Pyle used to say. SURPRISE SURPRISE!!!!!

    DeLay conviction overturned; DA promises appeal - Houston Chronicle
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